[DEV] The Fame System – Second Edition

[tylarth]

so... be neutral have freedom of movement as before with a slight hit to merchant prices.

or.. side with faction and race lose probably 50% of freedom of movement and trade, oh and have to do rites for this.

So what is the advantage in choosing citizenship and cult? just the privilage to attack a neutral 1st?

[rushin]

So what is the advantage in choosing citizenship and cult? just the privilage to attack a neutral 1st?

there's this little thing called the story

[tylarth]

But to forward the story one need a little benefit + motivation, for E2 its the rewards for the hons pts, for OP its the specials that come with owning one. The advantage to be a citizen/cult member should be clear in practical terms not just RP, as it stands the document favours the neutral. Which is bizarre as it is the neutral that has to do the least for the status and loses the least.

[luinil]

I think that only citizens will have acces to some features like racial stanzas.

[altomesa]

so... be neutral have freedom of movement as before with a slight hit to merchant prices.

or.. side with faction and race lose probably 50% of freedom of movement and trade, oh and have to do rites for this.

So what is the advantage in choosing citizenship and cult? just the privilage to attack a neutral 1st?

I was just thinking the same thing. Aside from roleplaying and making some serious sacrifices to do so, why wouldn't I want to be neutral? I know from being a PR forager that I sure wouldn't want to lose those precious tp's. So I guess I don't get it.

[marct]

I think that only citizens will have acces to some features like racial stanzas.

Yeah, I think there are to be implemented benefits that they alluded to that you would only be able to achieve through citizenship or cult membership.

I can see a lot of Neutrals(Cult wise) still being Citizens somewhere. Why not?

Noin.

[philu]

Sounds like more of Nevrax kicking the non-PvPers in the unmentionables to me. If you choose to be neutral, you become a target for the gankers and at a complete disadvantage.

Definitely going to be a case of - "if you want to be neutral, stay out of PvP areas"!

I'd also like to know from someone at Nevrax (are you awake Lawrence??!!) what happens to members of guilds from 'opposing' races. For example, what about a Tryker in a Fyros based guild, or a Fyros in a Matis based guild? Is that still possible?

[xenofur]

I'd also like to know from someone at Nevrax (are you awake Lawrence??!!) what happens to members of guilds from 'opposing' races. For example, what about a Tryker in a Fyros based guild, or a Fyros in a Matis based guild? Is that still possible?

read the text, it's all written there...
if the tryker has fyros citizenship he can join a fyros-based guild
if not he can only join the guild if it's neutral

if the fyros has matis citizenship he can join a matis-based guild
if not he can only join the guild if it's neutral

[iphdrunk]

Yeah, I think there are to be implemented benefits that they alluded to that you would only be able to achieve through citizenship or cult membership.

that's interesting, a few players have requested racial differences for a while. Personally, I'm pretty much ok with all the players getting access to most of the stanzas. A few differences, not many, may add some uniqueness, but they also open the possibility to more imbalance (e.g. the kami cultists get access to a new elemental spell and the karavan cultists to new pistols :rolleyes , the classless system is a good point of Ryzom, and hopefully these differences are balanced as well.

The good thing is that this is apparently going live with Chapter 3 (I forgot the date, actually, when is it Nov 26th?). It may be a good idea to copy our characters to ATS (those with access) to test the guild and fame changes

[akicks]

One thing that intrigues me.... when did the zorai and tryker become anti one another?

I would have thought that the Zorai people would be more anti the Matis than the Tryker. (Stated starting fame -20% Tryker, -10 % Matis)

Zorai and Matis get along (Zorai have towns named after Jena)