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Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:55 pm
by pr0ger
magick1 wrote:True, but I am still curious about the non-appereance of Tryton and his guild.
Prolly been PvP'ed by mistake in the new land. As hominist they dont have any respawn point. duh.
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:09 pm
by wylkroe
Concerned about balance in this event.
#1 - Death penalty anywhere on the event map should be turned off NPC/Kitin/Kami Tolerence
#2 - How do the kami have a hold on the sources in this land that neither the karavan or the kami control. Turn off kami tolerence!!! There are just too many people pulling sources for it to make any sense.
#3 - PVP I for one dont mind getting ganked occasionally. After being ganked 10 or so times I think nothing of ganking kami harvesters on sight. Though the balance issues are a tad off and seriously doesnt support the actions of those who are there as a fighters to support the construct of the temple. In the first day many were there to fend off the kitin and guard the harvesters though quickly realized there was no "honor" in protecting the harvesters from mobs most harvesters are left to their own devices when digging though fighting and digging never go very well together due to the transition time to be ready to defend yourself. Suggestion: Provide higher honor points to those who guard over sources and points for killing the kitin.
#4 Balance why would we have an event that is so slighted in a racial manner towards Fyros diggers. The ability to pull mats in an event should be limited to your top harvesting level not your racial abilities. The crafting of the temple doesn't require being able to craft fyros jewelry. Suggestion: remove racial requirement and base harvest skills off of highest level harvest.
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:12 pm
by calel
Some points I came up with that seem a bit unfair:
Careplanners don' t gain honor points while careing, nor when the materials are handed over. You can not hand over materials. Works both ways; same faction team or opposing faction team. (I just had to check if it worked
)
----> no point in having carers unless one accepts he won' t get the points while enduring the same risks or unless you switch tasks
There is actually no real incentive to protect your faction' s foragers as you can make much more profit as a fighter/mage by actively 'going out to smite the opponent'. Purely talking about personal rewards in the short term. Granting points as a reward for defeating a kitin attack sounds like a good idea at first, but somehow I can already seeing it abused by people going for the kinchers to get points if there is no opposing faction nearby.
DP: either make it full or none, not both. Atm you have people getting really ticked off because they only seem to get kinchers dragged onto them instead of getting PvPed. People know it and will use it to hurt others as has been done before.
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:28 pm
by grimjim
calel wrote:There is actually no real incentive to protect your faction' s foragers as you can make much more profit as a fighter/mage by actively 'going out to smite the opponent'. Purely talking about personal rewards in the short term. Granting points as a reward for defeating a kitin attack sounds like a good idea at first, but somehow I can already seeing it abused by people going for the kinchers to get points if there is no opposing faction nearby.
With the increased spawn times this may actually prove beneficial, keeping areas consistently clear of Kitin and meaning the fighters are the ones, largely, drawing and keeping the aggro.
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:10 pm
by mimir1
roninpvp wrote:3.) ... The stupid radar doesnt show the oppisite faction color till they get within blasting range
And BTW LOW LEVEL FIGHT/MAGIC but HIGH LVL HARVESTERS should NOT CON THEIR HARVEST LEVELS. There is no way a 250 harvester but very weak fight/magic should be conning Large Black Star Purple! What in Gods name are you thinking. You just promote ganking. ...
LOL!!! I just read this again, and I think that if fits me exactly. No wonder I was slapped down so many times. And to think I was happy to get my Master Forest Forage.
Large Black Star Purple! Wow !!! And on little old me. __________________
Mimir
Master Forest Forager
Armada
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:35 pm
by glipe
Currently I have not entered the new lands. I have read about them, read about the possibility of getting ganked and the aboslute lack of something to do for players who consider themselves neutral in the coming conflict. I would greatly like to have a reason to harvest and frolic in the new lands and, happily, Nevrax seem to have that in hand. I have a question though. When will we see this content for the neutrals implemented?
And to the person who said that neutrality is purely a roleplaying choice: Yes, currently it is but only because the mechanisms for the playing a character who does not support either side have not been implemented yet. I patiently await that time but would like some idea of how long I have to wait.
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:13 pm
by wylkroe
glipe wrote:And to the person who said that neutrality is purely a roleplaying choice: Yes, currently it is but only because the mechanisms for the playing a character who does not support either side have not been implemented yet. I patiently await that time but would like some idea of how long I have to wait.
You can still be neutral in this land as well. Be it you may be killed by homin or kitin however digging of all levels is needed. Quite frankly I havnt been ganked yet where I wasnt able to respawn turn in my mats and go back.
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:51 pm
by jared96
wylkroe wrote: Balance why would we have an event that is so slighted in a racial manner towards Fyros diggers. The ability to pull mats in an event should be limited to your top harvesting level not your racial abilities. The crafting of the temple doesn't require being able to craft fyros jewelry. Suggestion: remove racial requirement and base harvest skills off of highest level harvest.
Because the outcome of the 4 events is a foregone conclusion.
Hmmmm 4 temples, 4 races...lemme guess.
Event 1 - Desert ...won by kami cause they can put more desert diggers there.
Event 2 - Forest ...won by kara cause they can put more forest diggers there.
Event 3 - Jungle ...won by kami cause they can put more jungle diggers there.\
Event 4 - Lakelands ...won by kara cause they can put more lakelands diggers there.
Everything is a tie and everyone feels good. Juyst liek the father / son little league game where the kids eke out a win in the last inning and everyone pretends it wasn't a fix.
Now I am gonna guess and say that there are more Matis / lTryker players on this server than Fyros / Zorai and that desert was chosen first so as not to discourage the minority.
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:17 am
by darkmagk
wylkroe wrote:You can still be neutral in this land as well. Be it you may be killed by homin or kitin however digging of all levels is needed. Quite frankly I havnt been ganked yet where I wasnt able to respawn turn in my mats and go back.
I was killed by the Karavan guards before even setting foot on the temple site... Seems that the policy towards neutrals is, "If you aren't with us,... You're fodder."
Re: Some hints and clarifications about Episode 2
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:29 am
by mrshad
Lawrence...buddy...
You closed all the other threads disscussing the EP-2 debacle, stating that answers and responses would be provided here.
So, tell us, where are the answers?
Thanks!