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Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:39 pm
by Fred1l1
dyriddw wrote:Healing too much? When you use any self heal (stamina, health, sap, focus) you lose ability to use ALL other heal types for like 2 mins. That already makes buying the others pretty pointless.

Why don't these have individual timers?

In tough battles, I constantly have to run away because even though I bought the heal self skills, I can only use one (usually health to avoid death debt), which means that if I run low on stamina/sap when I run low on health, I have to heal and run when I should be able to simply use the other heals that I've spent pts. buying.
You can combine the self heal stam and health and use them at the same time...someone hasn't been messing around enough with actions i see...in the beta my fighter had 3 self-heal actions, the first was straight heal 600, second was heal 500 stam 100, third heal 400 stam 200, so if i was running low in hp and stam i could use one of the latter actions, it was working out just fine for me...didn't have many problems :)

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:06 pm
by parisg
That was exactly what the stanza system was supposed to do... Bringing creativity into your game? Always running low on health AND stamina? Combine two healings to one and see the kipees die! Works like a charm. (And I have only reached lvl 20, wonder whats out there)

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:04 pm
by forever
The only other channel I'd like to see is the AUCTION one, any more than that will just get messy and confusing.

As others have asked I would like to know more about the Magician Glove and what will become of the Magic Staff.

Neva

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:31 pm
by Starla
If we are getting NPC vendors to sell things on, what do we need an auction channel for?

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:00 pm
by tetra
[QUOTE=Satchi]Patch One includes:
  • Player Vendors (NPCs you can offer your goods for sale through)
The wording seems to indicate that the NPC vendors will work like those of HZ where you can offer things to sell and search through the stuff that others have put up to see if you want to buy any of it (WTS vendors). Will there be a system similar to EVE as well where you can setup a purchase of what you want to buy and let others meet the order if they feel like your price is worth the effort (WTB vendors)?

Having the WTS vendors is great for crafters, and can be ok for harvesters, but it truely sucks for adventurer types who find themselves needing a staff... or a boot... or whatever and finding 47 gloves for sale. Also IMO having a WTB set of vendors helps improve the economy for those selling stuff since they don't worry about setting their prices too high, are not hated for having a stranglehold on those who need to buy stuff from them... most importantly though, it prevents the "ffs I've been trying to find a X for N hours/days/weeks" since they can just put out an order and wait till it gets filled or raise their price if they find it was too low for someone to bother.

Basic/fine/choice/etc mats all seem pretty much standard stats as long as you have the same basic/fine/choice/etc mob/harvest drop QL. It could easily be handled for those with a tiered selection system where you just drill down to what specifically you want and select the QL. A little more work would be needed for finished crafted items, but could easily be done with range X-Y sliders for the stats you want it to meet and a way of verifying that said item is actually possible.

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:24 pm
by fellgrim
Fred1l1 wrote:You can combine the self heal stam and health and use them at the same time...someone hasn't been messing around enough with actions i see...in the beta my fighter had 3 self-heal actions, the first was straight heal 600, second was heal 500 stam 100, third heal 400 stam 200, so if i was running low in hp and stam i could use one of the latter actions, it was working out just fine for me...didn't have many problems :)
Having your stam/heal/sap/focus timers decoupled reduces downtime and provides flexibilty.

Want to heal? Go ahead. Stam low, but health OK 1.5 min later? Go nuts and heal your stam, knowing that you still have your health heal in 30 sec or so.

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:34 pm
by tashunka
jackovas wrote:How about fixing the Sap Crystal bug?
Big time!
I encountered this bug today, just started a mage alt. I'm grateful to GM-Takashi for all the help (and I hope I helped to narrow down the cause and possibly move closer to a solution) but the existing "fix" is a big PITA if I may say so.

Started out with the Big Mage Pack so I could have Acid and Fear from the beginning... so when I got hit with this bug, I had to grind out 5 levels of Fight to get Crafting start; those points were needed for Health stats and heals, so I had to bang out 5 levels of Craft to get... Harvesting Start; then Harvest for 5 levels to get the skills I should have been getting with Fight.

Net Result? 145 SP invested just to reliably make Sap Crystals.

This needs fixing before the patch, that's for sure. :eek:

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:29 am
by morgosha
Good to see some things are on the way though not to look the gift horse in the mouth buuuuuuuuut....those things should have been in at release.

Thanks again!

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:33 am
by ayne31
gralen wrote:YesOn a side note, I'm somewhat concerned by the future race divergence. I just hope that the experience will bring enough excitement to the game to warrant the inevitable backlash from players who will feel wronged by such a move. Of course, I could be totally off base here and everyone will love the change. I've been wrong before, so here's hoping. ;)
I just hope i wont be forced to reroll my 2 favourite toons because they took the wrong *profession* for their race....

Re: News: Patch One & Patch Two

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:43 pm
by botello
Heh, I dunno where else to post this but I think you guys need a forum for suggestions... ahh, for the chat channel thing, mebbe we could have a chat that went to everyone on our friends list?