Ryzom

So Basic, the fact you choose NOT to answer my question is, I think, answer enough for anyone reading this thread.

However, I have no objection to answering YOUR question. The answer is that there is a fundamental moral difference between saying 'I am strong and will therefore use that strength to do what suits me to the exclusion of others' and 'I will take a share of the resources of Atys along with everyone else'.

The fact that you will not answer my question suggests to me that you can perfectly well see the moral difference but just don't want to admit it. If you truly cannot see the moral difference then I think that would place you in a very small minority.

*whine* - later getting stoned.

virii wrote:*whine* - later getting stoned.

If that's true one has to wonder how you're so damn aggressive.

hmz kincher vorax infinity omegaV alaways something will kill u on supernodes learn to live with it


about morality oneofone: is it moraly right to ban whole guilds (ignore) caus some of them fight over the supernodes in pr?

2nd is it moraly right to judge others actions?

3rd is it moraly right i interfere ....

doh this will never lead to anything lots of supernodes infinity cant be on all at once: i very rarely see infinity members out of fe the amber supernode

grimjim wrote:If that's true one has to wonder how you're so damn aggressive.

I treat everyone with the respect each person treats me.

Only doing it to the actual offenders will do little if anything; they are killing you anyway. The whole guild would need to feel exiled from the gaming community because they stand under a certain flag. But that's not why I'm posting. In fact I don't even support the idea. However, what you are doing is your choice. Just like Infinity making that declaration is theirs. Be it through diplomacy or force their patrolling of the area can be dealt with. Decide which tactic you whish to employ, or accept the fact that when they are down there, you don't dig.

-Kash-

Dev's got rid of the patrols now we're stuck with a few aggro tribes, too bad their AI is all screwed up.....

I haven't checked back so I might be wrong but I think I remember reading in the Infinity thread that they will give fair warning to the diggers before they strike. I feel this is quite in keeping with homin honour and though obviously as a character, Sanz is disappointed at their standpoint, his belief being that the strong should help others rather than oppressing them, as a player I think that Infinity have done the right thing by telling us. If we wish to organise resistance against them, they have given us fair warning. If I was in the least bit interested I'm sure that I could round up enough players with enough interest to deal with the issue, should it arise.

Re archerke's points:-

1. I'm really not sure what you are getting at here. I don't want to sound caustic or supercilious but your grammar confuses me. It's not a question of whether guilds fight over supernodes or not. It's a question of the morality of a strong group telling others what they may or may not do. The rest of your point is already answered elsewhere in the thread (I think).

2. Yes, it most certainly is right (morally and for other reasons) to judge the actions of others. Do I need to spell it out that it happens all the time in life. And it is only by making such judgements, and discussing them, that a society comes to agree on a common set of values by which they believe they should live.

3. Yes, although I think interfere is an emotive word that does not carry the correct connotations in this situation. It implies the situation I am intervening in is none of my business. When a group commences a policy that affects all others outside that group it becomes my business.

And I've got to say that your conclusion amounts to the biggest cop out of all. I'm a realist and I recognise that 'putting my head over the parapet' in this way will probably have no practical effect on the situation and will be detrimental to me personally. But that doesn't make the point I have made any less morally correct or mean it shouldn't be said. How many policies will you let others make that could be detrimental to you but that you will keep saying 'Oh well it doesn't matter, I can work round it' and what will you do come the day a policy is commenced that you can't work round?

glipe wrote:I haven't checked back so I might be wrong but I think I remember reading in the Infinity thread that they will give fair warning to the diggers before they strike. I feel this is quite in keeping with homin honour and though obviously as a character, Sanz is disappointed at their standpoint, his belief being that the strong should help others rather than oppressing them, as a player I think that Infinity have done the right thing by telling us. If we wish to organise resistance against them, they have given us fair warning. If I was in the least bit interested I'm sure that I could round up enough players with enough interest to deal with the issue, should it arise.

Woot at last someone that gets it
Thats what i wanna see others uniting and fighting and making it one big fun PvP rush on supernode days