Message to Kings of Oblivion

[ajsuk]

Have to kinda agree with that one.. only bars I don't have Unvul/Speed/SelfHP on is ones for crafting

[omsop]

it's best to take every precaution necessary to help you.

i couldnt agree more, i always carry a spare, precaution is best way to go, dont wanna be paying for something for years after a few hot moments down under.

[virii]

Kostoprav CAN we agree like mature adults it was a mistake on both our parts and get a GM to end this thread?

[alyssah]

Kostoprav CAN we agree like mature adults it was a mistake on both our parts and get a GM to end this thread?

Lockheart - sorry to join in but the way I read it is that Kostoprav waltzed into Pr, you kicked the Schweppes out of him, left him to respawn and now want him to own up to being responsible for his own demise?

I agree it was a mistake born of habit, I agree a bit of discussion could have avoided it but I also agree that a guy standing with his pick in his hand is unlikely to be going to forage you. Unless your lucky.

I don't think apologies or recriminations are necessary, just an agreement that encompasses all of your old enemies that you are no longer at war. That way if either guildies attack then blame becomes more apparent. I am sorry that Kostoprav found out the hard way that old habits die hard ( and old enemies).

[virii]

That's not how it happend, I was digging with 2 people a blue dot ran up behind me I didn't see a pick or anything but when someone runs up behind me in a PvP Zone I kill then ask questions after maybe im wrong for doing so but to be fair never run up behind someone in a PvP Zone.

That's basicly how it happend + I have 2 other people NOT with me digging NEXT to me which WILL back me up, I don't want to involve them but whatever.

[alyssah]

That's not how it happend, I was digging with 2 people a blue dot ran up behind me I didn't see a pick or anything but when someone runs up behind me in a PvP Zone I kill then ask questions after maybe im wrong for doing so but to be fair never run up behind someone in a PvP Zone.

That's basicly how it happend + I have 2 other people NOT with me digging NEXT to me which WILL back me up, I don't want to involve them but whatever.

Ehm!! What happened to the rest of my post Lockheart. I am beginning to sense you are just on a defensive streak rather than trying to sort this out. If you have a problem with Kosto that's personal fine. Otherwise, read the rest of my post & respond.

[totnkopf]

allow me, locky...

I agree it was a mistake born of habit, I agree a bit of discussion could have avoided it but I also agree that a guy standing with his pick in his hand is unlikely to be going to forage you. Unless your lucky.

ok, look at the SS again. Kos has only just equiped his pick when Locky attacked him. In other words, he was holding something other than a pick (and I'm willing to bet it wasn't a crafting tool either). Also the melee bar is up on his screen.

I don't think apologies or recriminations are necessary, just an agreement that encompasses all of your old enemies that you are no longer at war. That way if either guildies attack then blame becomes more apparent. I am sorry that Kostoprav found out the hard way that old habits die hard ( and old enemies).

This part is really up to locky to do, not for anyone else to tell her to do. If she wants to harbor old debts, then thats up to her. It IS a PvP zone, so again... you can be attacked by ANYONE for ANY reason. All locky was attempting to do here was to agree that this issue has been delt with. They have both killed each other at different times, so now they wish to simply put it behind them.

[tylarth]

Yay i'm an eyewitness!!! Will there be a trial?

few other facts from a bystander point of view, i noted no dialogue before or immediatly after. just 2 nukes on Kosta when he showed up.

ms lockheart was care planning with an OmegaV member so that may influence opinions of their member opinion of the affair.

I made the conscious decision at the time not to intervene/comment/rez due to knowing nothing of the background conflict if any.


And in a far more general sense as i've not expressed a comment on PvP zone attitudes. So it is my opinion that it was made a PvP zone so guilds could sort out wars, that mat supplies could be fought over. I do however take the view that ganking/griefing players just because you can is pointless, generates player rl hostility (as forums can testify too), and generally makes the server a more unpleasent, unwelcoming and distasteful experience. Not really an attitude that encourages causal browsers to play ryzom.

[kashius]

Part of the reason that casual browsers might be turned off by some of the threads is because people choose to make a post about how they got killed instead of settling it in game (either by diplomacy or force). Then the arguing starts and people start getting nasty. Settle it in game. It is a PvP zone, you can get killed. Be prepared to fight at all times while there, or risk dying. Please stop making threads when you are attacked/killed in a PvP zone. Please.

-Kash-

[mmatto]

Part of the reason that casual browsers might be turned off by some of the threads is because people choose to make a post about how they got killed instead of settling it in game (either by diplomacy or force). Then the arguing starts and people start getting nasty. Settle it in game. It is a PvP zone, you can get killed. Be prepared to fight at all times while there, or risk dying. Please stop making threads when you are attacked/killed in a PvP zone. Please.

I liked Blondy's idea of separate forum about pvp hostilities. Just bury it as sub forum of 'Saga' and casual browsers won't be harmed. Moderator should move threads there from general forum to keep it clearer. Discussing these things is good thing, in my opinion but 'General' section is just so wrong place for these posts.