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Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:52 pm
by glipe
I think the Kami Bar is working better now that it did before the merger! The Kami are meant to be really harsh to exploiters of the land. They don't care about homins, just about balance. And now that the land really is getting a taste of true exploitation, they're coming down hard on the harvesters! Seems about right, wouldn't you say?

Plenty more places to harvest, as many have noted.

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:06 pm
by vutescu
miep i get all the stuff i need for a good ql200 sword (exellent max dmg, 23 speed) in circle of 100m out of tp
why should i bother going alone in the big world getting killed each 5 min by aggro? try to get them exellent oath in thesos good luck
See what I meant when I wanted to find a way to FORCE the players to find new places? As long as they will lose fame because they harvest, the fame WILL become unbalanced, but just for them. As long they dont care about others, why others should care about them? A punitive method to make them to live the spot and find another, will do the trick imo.

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:17 pm
by marct
madnak wrote:Heretic's hovel has almost no harvesters. There are many spots in bog that nobody ever goes to. The Knoll of Dissent, believe it or not, is more than just towerbridge way. GoC has plenty of grinding spots nobody ever goes to. Savage dunes and dunes of exile are both enormous.

TB, the spot by ecowarrior camp, the spot by Fearing Fen Farm, Dyron, Thesos. The reason tolerance is low in these areas is that these areas are overused. There are many other places to get your mats. At the moment I think we have enough kami tolerance to support this server 5 times over. But 90% of the deposits are never used, because nobody is willing to get out of their comfort zone. That isn't justification for changing the kami tolerance, if you ask me.

Another perspective - if the devs change the kami tolerance every time it gets low, what is the point of it? This is a game mechanic with a real purpose, it's designed to prevent players from all mining the same easy sources. And now, we are all mining the same sources. So the kami tolerance is doing its job well, it's time for us players to stop being so lazy.
/"AGREE EMPHATICALLY"
The game mechanic is finally proving it's salt!!! Seems some people may be forced to more difficult areas soon if not already. I say about time. I know hundreds of digging spots that no one ever uses. And that is just in Matis :) It is doing just fine.

I think if it forces people into roots, even better, then the PvP piece can play out a bit more.

P.S. Don't you dare touch that Kami Tolerance fixer bittn there devs or support staff. No need for a change here!!!

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:20 pm
by marct
PPS. If anyone would like a Noinossalg special, Kamikaze harvesting class, I would be willing to assist the dedicated.

For those not in the know, I often forage in spots where I am 30-40m from 3 different groups of aggro. :eek: :eek: :eek: And you thought foraging was mindless, this is high awareness at it's best!!! :D

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:40 pm
by archerke
dakhound wrote:As I see you diggin round thesos all the time (and you've ressed me a few times) I might spend a few mins showing you a really nice place for you to relocate ;)

its got no aggro within 50m, its not far from where you dig usually its also easy to reach and has generally more spots than thesos (inc a few autumn excellent spots like thesos). It may be of interest to you
pls feel free :)

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:22 pm
by ajsuk
Well what can I say to this except, if you say so..

But me thinks those who voted 'No' would sure enjoy a 'tour de mats' type thing.. Because without being psychic or spending alot of time researching It's no easy task.

damn RL getting in the way eh??
Then, come to think of it.. would I want to spend anymore time on digging than I already do?? Not exactly the most thrilling thing in the game is it.. and I was sure the point in gaming was to have fun :confused:

Anyway, hey Noino my friend. I would sure love you to take me to these places plz plz :P

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:58 pm
by gillest
morgan73 wrote:If you want the Kami happy, gee.. Careplan???
If *everyone* careplans for a week, avoids blows, gassers, and premature ending of thier sources, :p
Is there any other way to harvest? ;)
up to my lil 220ish forest forage, the only occasion I blew was cos i was chatting to much :)

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:27 am
by rasmus
The Kami Tolerance is just fine as it is now.. This is said many times before "the low level harvest should harvest in the regions that fit thier level, instead of ruining the harvesting for those who are higher level."

And for those who dont bother go finding less safe spots to harvest, go do something else. :p

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:22 am
by archerke
rasmus wrote:The Kami Tolerance is just fine as it is now.. This is said many times before "the low level harvest should harvest in the regions that fit thier level, instead of ruining the harvesting for those who are higher level."

And for those who dont bother go finding less safe spots to harvest, go do something else. :p
ye if u got 5 orders running try to stay calm i just dig them at the easiest/closest spot i can find them kami bar 0 or not ;)

Re: Kami Levels

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:19 pm
by uncus
rasmus wrote:The Kami Tolerance is just fine as it is now.. This is said many times before "the low level harvest should harvest in the regions that fit thier level, instead of ruining the harvesting for those who are higher level."

And for those who dont bother go finding less safe spots to harvest, go do something else. :p
And what gives you or anyone else the right to tell anyone where they may harvest?