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Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:50 pm
by dazman76
borg9 wrote:(will be submitting a ticket about the source info window being 'hidden' behing the source names on a multi spot prospect.

Shalahs and Kipees also seem to do a wonderful job of hidding the source info. Didn't it say in the patch notes that info windows would no longer be obscured?


I keep meaning to do this and forgetting :( It looks like this is controlled by a simple sphere distance function, from the mat spot. However, the distance still doesn't go far enough out to cater for big mobs - so, if mektoub is stood on top of your source, the source will be drawn over it. If the mek moves away slightly, chances are the mats will still be on top. However, if a big chunky kipee comes along, he's still big enough to obscure some of the mat spot, even if he's stood smack on top of it.

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:03 pm
by borg9
dazman76 wrote:I keep meaning to do this and forgetting :( It looks like this is controlled by a simple sphere distance function, from the mat spot. However, the distance still doesn't go far enough out to cater for big mobs - so, if mektoub is stood on top of your source, the source will be drawn over it. If the mek moves away slightly, chances are the mats will still be on top. However, if a big chunky kipee comes along, he's still big enough to obscure some of the mat spot, even if he's stood smack on top of it.


hehe, I HAVE to dig with a carer at the EI kami tp. We often have to kill this great fluffy beasts because they drive us nuts!

Their AI means they are draw to the big glowing green sources, and they do tend to have a habit of getting a bit friendly with diggers....

http://82.217.74.5/ravens/forum/screen.php?fullimage=y&dir=screens&file=Neungetshugs.jpg

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:57 am
by jtgrizom
Mobs are attracted to the harvesters, not to the sources. But it all comes to the same and it's getting off topic for this thread.

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:59 am
by micrix
zippo123 wrote:Ok.... i would like to start a discussion about prospecting more than one spot.

I think ppl that prospect more than one spot ruin the other spots. Once a spot has been prospected and not harvested, its gone and takes some time to respawn.

I dont see any difference in XP prossing 3 or 4 spots... or 1.

I would like all harvies to prospect for one spot only and make life easier for all other harvies.


*braces for flames*


This is just *not* true. Prospecting 4 sources does not destroy anything. If you dig with perfect caring you will notice that a source gives nearly always the same amount of mats until its empty. Digging two sources with one search is the way to go using focus smart.

An other thing is bad caring. I am not sure, but i think not caring for sourcelife speed s up depletion...

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:14 am
by borg9
jtgrizom wrote:Mobs are attracted to the harvesters, not to the sources. But it all comes to the same and it's getting off topic for this thread.



Shalahs are attracted to the sources. As any Harvester that digs near them.

Runs 100m North prospects.
Waits till Shalahs come.
Runs back to spot prospects in peace :D

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:32 am
by zippo123
micrix wrote:This is just *not* true. Prospecting 4 sources does not destroy anything. If you dig with perfect caring you will notice that a source gives nearly always the same amount of mats until its empty. Digging two sources with one search is the way to go using focus smart.

An other thing is bad caring. I am not sure, but i think not caring for sourcelife speed s up depletion...



Yes, we all (incl me) have come to that conclusion :-)

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:25 pm
by phazula
Ok, for all the idiots out there (me) that is not a forager....

What is a major/ minor node?!

I've read this entire thread and there is nothing explaining this, or at least from my interpretation. Its difficult for new foragers to understand these threads if noone takes the time to explain certain phrases.

Thanks.

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:53 pm
by usinuk
phazula wrote:What is a major/ minor node


The term comes from prospecting and deposit tracking, where there are options for finding 'minor' and 'major' nodes. (Whether this works to find either of them or anything at all is subject to debate.)

Minor nodes are 5-10m areas where there are limited supplies of mats as described previously in the thread.

A major node is a larger area (sometimes 30m-40m, sometimes much more than that) where there are multiple minor nodes. So if you go out and exhaust one minor node in a major node, you can walk 15m away, continue harvesting, walk another 15m, continue harvesting, and so forth indefinitely.

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:30 pm
by hans1976
Is this why I cannot find the choice seeds in Fount? I standard use Major (whatever), cause I had the SP and my actions look nicer.

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:07 pm
by usinuk
hans1976 wrote:Is this why I cannot find the choice seeds in Fount? I standard use Major (whatever), cause I had the SP and my actions look nicer.


I have found at times mats will show up when using minor node and deposit tracking when using major node and deposit tracking doesn't show anything. Given how bizarrely deposit tracking often operates I have no idea if this is supposed to be this way.