Xavier's still at it :)

[kaetemi]

that's a personal attack?

Yes it is, if you want to give good arguments, go for the topic, not the people.

[ummax]

a. Some people love Ryzom so much that they prefer it dead than try the ryzom.org project...

I'm not one of those look at my registration date on this board I'm new to the game. If your here lobbying for support you have yet to gain mine there is a reason for that. All I get is excuses and the fact that your website works in one small corner or the world is NOT a good thing. That can be fixed, but you refuse your webfront doesn't even need to be in france it can be anywhere. In fact you can get 3 or 4 urls and put one in each corner of the world for a couple hundred dollars if you put your mind to it. This is not what your doing though. So again your best side is not showing to me and many others. It also doesn't appear that your willing to put it forward quoting failure of the project and lack of funds. How do you afford to play this game?

[ummax]

Yes it is, if you want to give good arguments, go for the topic, not the people.

the topic is the presentation of the ryzom project. Its not presenting itself its people presenting it and they arent making it look very good and neither are you

And so how dare this guy come to a board that is not ryzom.org and accuse us of trolling and flaming come now again open your eyes

Anyhow I"m done with you again another day you make no sense are filled with sarcasm and really have nothing of substance to say.

[zanthar]

I would rank that a bit as if a salesman changed companies and rang up former customers whose numbers he happened to have in his filofax. Maybe it doesnt win an ethics price, as that would have required to act as if he was completely newborn, but wth... i've seen worse things happen (and yes, i'm sensitive about privacy issues).

Glo

QFE it just reeks of un-ethical Behavior and to me that is not way to start a buisness! If I can't trust you why on earth should I do buisness with you! Agreed you got me on your post before this one, but after seeing the threads and such here. I would at least contact a lawyer about this.

[tryzovia]

200$ You know for now, the project did not earn one cent. Maybe Xavier do not have 200$ more. If someone want's to help he is wellcome. I agree with you that is not a good thing. Finaly I will repeat that most of the problems of the website are due to the technology that was used to built it in limited time. This techuse lot of CPU.


=>I'm not one of those look at my registration date on this board I'm new to the game.
>Did I?

[praha]

For those that received the email, you had a username associated with your account on the dot Org site and (I assume) a randomly generated PW.

My username was Praha. Which happens to be my name in the left hand box here. So I am starting to think that someone (if not Xavier AND HIS 1/3 MAJORITY, someone else) copied the user database at somepoint with at least the Usernames and emails, if not more info.

It doesn't matter if "Person X" stole them or if one of the other dot Org's (and his 1/3 MAJORITY) fanboi's them. The problem is:

HE USED THEM AND SIGNED HIS NAME IN THE SIG OF THE EMAIL. You say he didn't know? The email was spoof? BS, my random generated PW worked. If he was so apalled by this abuse of the user database, wouldn't he wouldn't have sent out an "apologies" email?

I'm pretty certain the Nevrax CoC was broken by doing this if not some laws in various parts of the land. They won't get this project and you can assume this theft will have something to do with it (probably be the icing on the cake and not the primary reason they don't get it, lack of funding/corperate plan).

You better believe Nevrax will mention this abuse the the judge that Xavier and his 1/3 MAJORITY esp. if the dot Org group is not the highest bidder (which they won't).

[ummax]

And that's the only 2 arguments you keep saying on and on each time we answer and this is not sufficient to insult people.

your excuses are thin i have given you about 20 ways to solve the problem and you still refuse to even acknowledge the fact it will be solved. Also dont come to this forum and accuse me and the rest of the ryzom.com community HERE of trolling and flaming. I know I am not there accusing you of trolling and flaming on THIS board.

Now what was it about proving a point?

YOu have proven to me that you dont know anymore then I do. In fact it appears from a marketing and technical point of view that you in fact know less. Please STOP your not helping yourself your hurting yourself. I would suggest that if you can't actualy SHOW anything to the world (which you cant as most of it can't get to it) that you leave it alone until you do, but your not you keep bashing away about us not reading something we can't even get to. So again put up a site one that is at least moderately passable that I can get to and I might just go spend time and read it. Right now your trying to pitch something to a community that in essence at least 50% can't even read becuase for lack of a better way to put it YOU and the rest of the salesman wont let us. YOu just keep coming back here and telling us how much we flame and troll and telling us you can't afford to put up a couple of websites on a fast server.

I would ask you take a serious look at yourself because here I am at the door to the salesman shutting it in his face or hanging up the phone or deleting the email because there is NO information other then a few thin excuses on a messsage board calling us all trolls and flamers!

[desdi]

hmm did you ever though that nevrax might not be hostile on ryzom.org projet?

just ask yourself:
How come ryzom.org was ready to be taken?
How come ryzom.org got a news on nevrax.org ?

that's of course pure hypothesis but I don't see arguments from nevrax against us.

Quite strange indeed, the arguments against us did come from jolt? Are they interested by taking ryzom for their own? Who knows...


edit: ultimatums now? nice and civilized for sure keep going on you are helping us .
And thanks for knowing what I know better than me... I didn't know it!
edit2: I'm not exactly in the best position to talk but would you mind making some efforts on
your english. Seems to me that hatred makes you quite difficult to read...

[ummax]

website are due to the technology that was used to built it in limited time. This techuse lot of CPU.

Then change the technology your wasting your money. I will tell you now that if i was wanting to make the best possible presentation so that people could actualy read the information that I could and would go and get a stupid hosting account and offer my "unpaid" time to at least move a copy of that site over and likely redesign and improve it on a seperate server using another url. That is what people who believe in their cause do.

=>I'm not one of those look at my registration date on this board I'm new to the game.
>Did I

this makes no sense so i will try to interpret it. I guess the answer would be no you didn't bother to look at the registration date of the users and whether or not they even fall into the class of wanting to see ryzom just die.

[ummax]

hmm did you ever though that nevrax might not be hostile on ryzom.org projet?

just ask yourself:
How come ryzom.org was ready to be taken?
How come ryzom.org got a news on nevrax.org ?

that's of course pure hypothesis but I don't see arguments from nevrax against us.

Strange the arguments against us did come from jolt? Are they interested by taking ryzom for their own? Who knows...


edit: ultimatums now? nice and civilized for sure keep going on you are helping us .
And thanks for knowing what I know better than me... I didn't know it!

sign your making less and less sense so i will leave you to it. Let me know when you actualy want to deal with the issues myself and others actualy put forward instead of posturing with us which is what your doing in order to avoid the actual discussion.

also your not pitching to nevrax your pitching to the community who is gonna play the game. At this point in time if and when this happens and you get a game up and going there is not a chance in hell based on what I have seen that I would give you my support not at this moment anyhow.