Where's the Zorai community??

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Re: Where's the Zorai community??

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Wont keep me from crafting vests dhow :) gives me a bether id of what i nead to get of every expedition. :)
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right getting back to the original post ;)

'talktalk' you have to give the economy time to mature, this is taking longer in Zorai than other lands as we have a smaller population, there simply are not as many crafters around.

Unless you have players who are almost exculsively harvesters/foragers then for any given cross section the fighters will level quicker than the crafters, thus creating a gaping hole in the whole supply/demand chain. So unfortunately many crafters are busy trying to grind up and be able to supply their guildmates/friends/whoever with equipment. The situation *will* improve when a larger number can craft at 150+, its just taking a bit longer in Zorai to reach that point.

As a part-time crafter myself i find that i am too invloved in other activities to make rapid progress, but then I think I am not in such a rush as you :) I've been in constant dp for over a week now, with the war and suicide runs through the roots to help ppl out. But doing things like this will always have priority with my time ingame, i find it much more rewarding than harrasing the stable boy on the mull with my 74 light vests to sell...

Along with many others i make resonable, not top quality items for general sale. As time goes on the items i sell will increase in level, quality and quantity but i cant put grinding before playing. Sky has suggested ealier there are means to equip yourself if the markets are empty, and we also have a bazaar forum.

Just give it a bit of time, and maybe nudge your friends towards supporting the merchants a bit more.
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Communication is the big problem with crafting to the community imo :-

There realy needs to be a chat chanel for the whole land ,Zorai is particularly bad here as every city/town is in the lowest region and on/very close to a border. People (once >lvl 50) will just pop into town drop off mats/ craft for 5 mins and then theyre off into another region (having spent very little time in the heart of the community)

/Tells Grrrrrr maybe ok if youre a full time crafter but if you want "a life" doing anything else ingame then they are a real pain in the .... , whats needed is a filter/spam blocker system so you can go out n hunt/travel/heal your team in piece without a tell popping stealing focus (target) or worse another tell and reseting your menus as you type "busy healing team atm..." *team respawn*. Id like to have options such as DND (do not disturb) all tells blocked ,Guild only , Friends only , Guild and Friends ,ALL allowed also a limit on the number active at any one time with a "Busy" msg returned to all others -maybe a "call back" system would be needed though? another option would be to disable pop ups and have Tells as new chat channels instead -far less distracting (if they dont take focus)

Anyways ive wondered abit from the topic but I wont be crafting out of guild until a TELL blocker is implemented and wont "sell to players" through a merchant unless I can do it anonymously (this only leads to your name becoming known and more of those annoying Tells Grrrrr)
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petej wrote:Communication is the big problem with crafting to the community imo :-

There realy needs to be a chat chanel for the whole land ,Zorai is particularly bad here as every city/town is in the lowest region and on/very close to a border. People (once >lvl 50) will just pop into town drop off mats/ craft for 5 mins and then theyre off into another region (having spent very little time in the heart of the community)

/Tells Grrrrrr maybe ok if youre a full time crafter but if you want "a life" doing anything else ingame then they are a real pain in the .... , whats needed is a filter/spam blocker system so you can go out n hunt/travel/heal your team in piece without a tell popping stealing focus (target) or worse another tell and reseting your menus as you type "busy healing team atm..." *team respawn*. Id like to have options such as DND (do not disturb) all tells blocked ,Guild only , Friends only , Guild and Friends ,ALL allowed also a limit on the number active at any one time with a "Busy" msg returned to all others -maybe a "call back" system would be needed though? another option would be to disable pop ups and have Tells as new chat channels instead -far less distracting (if they dont take focus)

Anyways ive wondered abit from the topic but I wont be crafting out of guild until a TELL blocker is implemented and wont "sell to players" through a merchant unless I can do it anonymously (this only leads to your name becoming known and more of those annoying Tells Grrrrr)

Completely agree with this!!!!!!!

We need a 'Leave me alone option!'

I have almost got to the point after receiving over 15 tells while trying to take part in the event last night, of stoping crafting 'retail'.

I love helping people, I love crafting.....

But this is becoming the norm....

Customer: Hi
Neun: Hello
Customer: I hear you craft armour, are you busy?
Neun: Yes, I many healing a group atm
Customer: oh okay.

2 mins later

Customer: What quality lvl do you make?
Neun: 556745
Customer: ?
Neun: Thanks, my whole group is now dead and we are respawning!
Customer: can you make light?
Neun: I have now got 280k DP, which part of I am busy did you not understand?
Customer: with HP boost?

Neun is now offline....

Put it this way, this is a polite version of some of the tells I get and is to make a point...

I don't just sit in FH and have resources magic themselves in to my bag....

1. When I am digging a tell just as you need to Stop current action to avoid a 2k damage explosion ... is more than a little anoying!
2. When you are healing the pop window - messes up you healing = TEAM DEAD
3. I can take orders while I fight in a group, but solo = death!!!


I want to be able to control my methods of communication!

a simple solution would be to add a tab to the chat window with the 'tellers' name on it, like TEAM, and have the message appear in the 'USER' windows like other messages.

Simple and effective.
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petej wrote:There realy needs to be a chat chanel for the whole land ,Zorai is particularly bad here as every city/town is in the lowest region and on/very close to a border. People (once >lvl 50) will just pop into town drop off mats/ craft for 5 mins and then theyre off into another region (having spent very little time in the heart of the community)

agreed with the chat channel comments, have put a suggestion or 3 in about this. but how about this for an idea - Move the town's in Zorai over the borders. Or failing that move the borders so the towns fall in other regions. It *is* annoying that all the settlements are in CoI, and it makes haven, maiden, etc feel devoid of life. It would be great if the settlements were really spread out, as in Fyros for example. But i guess that would b an awful lot of work when there are many existing issues that should take priority. Or maybe the dev's have a reason for grouping them this way.. Just a thought not a demand ;)
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rushin wrote:agreed with the chat channel comments, have put a suggestion or 3 in about this. but how about this for an idea - Move the town's in Zorai over the borders. Or failing that move the borders so the towns fall in other regions. It *is* annoying that all the settlements are in CoI, and it makes haven, maiden, etc feel devoid of life. It would be great if the settlements were really spread out, as in Fyros for example. But i guess that would b an awful lot of work when there are many existing issues that should take priority. Or maybe the dev's have a reason for grouping them this way.. Just a thought not a demand ;)

Tryker is the same ... however I think the Trykers great community spirit has come from all the towns being in one region.

The only place in Tryker I don't find players in is Enchanted Isle.

BB has been busy with the invasion
LoL has usually got at least 1-2 forgagers and the occasional 200+ hunt.
Fount is super popular for hunting and digging at the moment.
WoM if full of lvl 50-100 harvesters and 50-100 hunters
RW has hunters of lvl 50-150
DD has hunters of lvl 40-60

The other areas I don't visit much so hunt too sure :D
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I feel that all the towns and settlements are in CoI is probably becuase CoI is kind of the safest region - you can't run into too much aggro trouble in CoI as far as I can see.

The other Regions get alot more dangerous with Torbaks and Kincher and feels like all the towns make the region a bit safer.

So I kind of like them being where they are on the borders to other regions, particularly as its then the one region you can find most people in and also becuase you can run away from a dangerous mob and into the safety of a nearby town if it gets hairy while fighting.

An all region chat would be better I think in the long run as long as it doesnt spoil the game.

On crafting and being known - It would be nice to have the option of hiding your name if you want to remain hidden when selling stuff to the markets.

Also I agree with the Tells thing - You should be able to configure whether you want the tell to pop up as a new window or if it should pop up as a tab in the main chat window.

On my world tour I had more than 70 tell pop ups appear on screen just as I was about to announce that we would rest for a minute while people at the back caught up. By the time I had closed them all I was almost killed by a mob !


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the zorai situation is the same for matis and tryker, all cities are in the same, lvl 50 area, so that cant be the reason why its so empty.

about the /tells:
yes they are annoying, especially when i'm typing something and suddenly all my menus mess up, or (even worse) i activate some macros such as speedup or invul

@neun: you should have expected this when u promote lots of stuff at the bazaar forums. i guess you should put times at which they can bother u, or not sell at all outside of guild.
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its nice for a while Xorte, but it would be great to have a town in the depths of void or haven. something for people to aim towards. and providing a bit of a challenge to higher level peeps on their doorstep.

As it is someone fresh from the noob island can visit all the towns in Zorai solo within 30mins of arriving
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predzz wrote:the zorai situation is the same for matis and tryker, all cities are in the same, lvl 50 area, so that cant be the reason why its so empty.

It's the masks i think. people want to b able to have a face - not a tattoo on a mask :)
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