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Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:33 pm
by uncus
gddss wrote:Hmm well not to beat a dead horse, but I am curious, have you tried the different video settings of OpenGL and D3D? I only ask because I had the same problem with the kipees.
Yup - OpenDL works fine...D3D used to give me occassional white-outs. That's graphics, though, not sound...or are you thinking maybe card memory usage? It's a 128Mb card [forget the number]. I don't run anything in the background, either. Wish we could filter out herbavore noises, kipees, and the starting music...

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:56 am
by danadita
gddss wrote:Hmm weird never heard of sound affecting lag. Is it possible there is some setting you have not tried or some driver that hasn't been downloaded? I am sure you have tried alot of things but unless your system is just really old I can't imagine there isn't some fix for that.
Heh - 2 years might be old in computer years. Copied from another thread: I have my landscape resolution set at the lowest setting and all other graphic settings set at medium and the sounds off. I tried sound with low tracks - 6 or 8 IIRC (hearing ragus can be important!) but I was still lagging out and could count on 2 CTD's a night. So all the sounds were turned off. My machine is a ABS built x86 family 15 model 2 stepping 4 genuineintel ~2545 mhz (copied from sys info) with an 9600 ATI card with 128vram; 512 ram. I turn off as many processes as I can get away with before starting the game. I'm lagged almost everywhere I go and when I go to any city I have to switch to "walk" because I lag out at "run". It's only 2 years old... I know it's not top end but I thought it is at least decent. :p

I've recently bought an ABS Magnum G-2 laptop with an ATI Radeon 9700 card/128vram; also 512 ram - it has a faster processor than my old one (slower HD though) and doesn't have much else on it but the game. I'm hoping I can play full blast on it. *crosses fingers and toes*
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First night, played pretty darn well - still lagcity in FH but it's a little less frustrating and I'm using sounds (yay!!!) and all the graphic settings are at defaulted settings (yay!!!). Soon will come the real test - riding my pony at full speed from FH to the Corsair camp.

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:01 pm
by ecsezer
gddss wrote:This says it requires an Nvidia chipset, will it not work for ATI?
Back in the days I had the first Gforce Deluxe. It came with 3D glasses. I hope we're still talking about the same technology here :)

The glass and the framerate of the monitor is synchronized. The scene is rendered for each eye once alternatingly. If you look at the glass, it also flickers, allowing your left eye to see only when the scene is rendered from the left eye viewpoint. And so for the right eye.

Effectively, your real frame rate drops to half for each eye but you get real 3D. It requires your graphics card to support such a system as I beleive. I know Nvidia ONCE had the support for it and I don't see why they wouldn't now. ATI however, is a mystery to me. And my Radeon 9600 in my laptop definetely DOESN'T have a jack for such a glass :)

Good day Homins.

Solexus from The Sacred Order.

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:36 pm
by raynes
ecsezer wrote:Back in the days I had the first Gforce Deluxe. It came with 3D glasses. I hope we're still talking about the same technology here :)

The glass and the framerate of the monitor is synchronized. The scene is rendered for each eye once alternatingly. If you look at the glass, it also flickers, allowing your left eye to see only when the scene is rendered from the left eye viewpoint. And so for the right eye.

Effectively, your real frame rate drops to half for each eye but you get real 3D. It requires your graphics card to support such a system as I beleive. I know Nvidia ONCE had the support for it and I don't see why they wouldn't now. ATI however, is a mystery to me. And my Radeon 9600 in my laptop definetely DOESN'T have a jack for such a glass :)

Good day Homins.

Solexus from The Sacred Order.

I works through an adapter that you plug your monitor and the glasses into and then plug the adapter into your computer.

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:22 am
by faedyne
danadita wrote:Heh - 2 years might be old in computer years. Copied from another thread:
*snipped*
Surely something's wrong besides your hardware... although maybe 512MB of RAM is a bad idea.
I have a P4-300GHz, 1GB of DDR, and a Radeon 9800. I had been running it on full settings for almost a month, although lately I've turned it down a bit. Runs pretty smooth.

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:03 am
by gddss
ecsezer wrote:Back in the days I had the first Gforce Deluxe. It came with 3D glasses. I hope we're still talking about the same technology here :)

The glass and the framerate of the monitor is synchronized. The scene is rendered for each eye once alternatingly. If you look at the glass, it also flickers, allowing your left eye to see only when the scene is rendered from the left eye viewpoint. And so for the right eye.

Effectively, your real frame rate drops to half for each eye but you get real 3D. It requires your graphics card to support such a system as I beleive. I know Nvidia ONCE had the support for it and I don't see why they wouldn't now. ATI however, is a mystery to me. And my Radeon 9600 in my laptop definetely DOESN'T have a jack for such a glass :)

Good day Homins.

Solexus from The Sacred Order.

I actually ended up contacting a company that produced the glasses (been awhile so I can't remember which one) and they told me that in no way did the glasses work with ATI. Maybe there are different brands that might work? I dunno. I didn't bother looking any further.

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:37 am
by khayne
I have yet to see or hear of any glasses that work with ATI, though that doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe if the classes came with their own controller card or something...though that'd probably be quite expensive. ATI rarely works for anything anyway so it fits the mold. (At least for me...nothing but trouble with ATI and never any trouble with nvidia so yeah...)

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:16 pm
by jfoxp
raynes wrote:All I can say is if you want to experience Ryzom as if it were real get surround sound and pick up a pair of 3d lcd glasses. There really is nothing I can say to do it justice.
I'd love to if I didn't have to drop back to 20 series drivers to get my LCD glasses to work...

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:24 pm
by jfoxp
Raynes, what drivers are you using?

The last time I used my lcd shutter glasses, I had to use 30.82...

I see that there have actually been updates (in fact, updates started right after I stopped looking for them!)

The latest stereo driver is 61.77, and the site says it requires 61.77 graphics card drivers. Are you using the 61.77 drivers for your card, or a later one? Just curious if the 61.77 stereo driver will work with later graphics drivers.

Re: I'm simply in awe...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:27 pm
by danadita
faedyne wrote:Surely something's wrong besides your hardware... although maybe 512MB of RAM is a bad idea.
Bad idea? As in not enough? :confused:

The new computer ran smooth at full settings for a month but I've recently had to turn down the landscape to low although I do have the micro veg at full. Also had to turn the sounds down to 24 tracks. It's starting to lag as much as the old machine. There's still very little else installed on the machine. I run a scan for spybots once a week and defrag after each game patch. It's okay for the 3 hours I play during the week but all day sessions on Saturdays and Sundays I can count on being interrupted by a CTD.