"We Are Doom And Atys Shall Bleed"

[gralen]

Stolen Karavan technology or again some form of support from the kitins?

Could just as easily have been a Kami teleport ticket. Although I do not subscribe to the idea that Mournblade was a Karavan - untrustworthy as I find them, Doubletap is correct that a Karavan guard in Matis armor could have been the attacker as well.

Regardless, I doubt that this is the last we'll see or hear of Mournblade or of the Harbingers.

[jdiegel]

"We are doom and Atys shall bleed."

Two questions.

First, without the RP hat, is this a bad translation that should read "We are doomed" or is he purposely using "doom" as a noun. I just want to clarify that since it wouldn't be the first bad translation I've seen in this game.

Second, with the RP hat, why does this have to have anything to do directly with the kitin. Maybe Mournblade was attempting to protect us from something else...something more dangerous than even the kitin.

Edit:

Of course the second question does kind of depend on the answer to the first one. If I should read it as him referring to the Harbingers as Doom, then ok, they're probably trying to kill us. If he was referring to all of us inclusively as doom then maybe something we do will cause us irrevocable harm. Now, if he actually meant to say "doomed" then my second question works the way I intended it.

[raynes]

We have two separate issues here: getting organized for kitin invasions and the assassination attempt on Mynias by Mourneblade. The first one has already been discussed at length during the conference and Rakujitsu resumed it well.

The only problem is that many people and guilds weren't there for the discussion. So that hasn't been discussed nor has it been resumed.

Now concerning what I suggest as opposed to weapons and fighting. First and foremost we must stop running through the roots as if it were nothing at all. As I said earlier what would happen if the Kitin ran through one of our capitals on a regular basis? I feel it's the same here. This does present another problem of how to reach other countries. Well if you look at the map there is land connecting each races homeland. WE must find a way to access that land. If that is not possible, then we must come up with a way to travel otherwise. If it be through magic, the trading of tickets, new inventions that let us either fly or swim, something.

Now if people are against the idea of staying out of the roots (as I suspect most are), then before you go running in to fight the kitin, you have to understand what they are, who they are, and what they do. From that gain a much better understanding of them. This can be done by tracking and observing them without interfering with them. Because as it stands right now all the homins ready to run in and fight are running in blindly. They are intellegent creatures and don't think they don't have the ability to anticipate exactly what is planned by us.

In short you will have no success beating and enemy you know nothing about.

[215528]

I just want to point out that no one has hard from the dragon... We Fyro's only stumbled upon the kitin while looking for him, does anyone else make the connection between what the dragon wanted and what the kitin almost did? Does no one else belive that the lest explored area may well house a group of Homins that haven't shown themselves, Homins that work with the dragon? Has anyone considered the possiblity that the dragon is controling the Qeen Kipiee's and through her all of the kitin's?
The harbingers, may well be the example of homins getting along... only its homins with the dragon... The dragon's goals are the Kitin's goals, the actions of the harbingers only serve the kitin. We must explore the roots, we must find its secerts only there will we find a answer to tke kitin threat

[neiana]

I just want to point out that no one has hard from the dragon... We Fyro's only stumbled upon the kitin while looking for him, does anyone else make the connection between what the dragon wanted and what the kitin almost did? Does no one else belive that the lest explored area may well house a group of Homins that haven't shown themselves, Homins that work with the dragon? Has anyone considered the possiblity that the dragon is controling the Qeen Kipiee's and through her all of the kitin's?
The harbingers, may well be the example of homins getting along... only its homins with the dragon... The dragon's goals are the Kitin's goals, the actions of the harbingers only serve the kitin. We must explore the roots, we must find its secerts only there will we find a answer to tke kitin threat

okay, first it seems you came to a pretty decent conclusion on your own, one that the lore actually supports.

Remember Elias? He supposedly saved a great many of us by taking us to a distant land, or whatever. We have not seen or heard from any of these homin since. The POSSIBILITY exists that Elias is an "illusion" of sorts of the presently sleeping "Great Dragon", and that - as mr numbers pointed out, could very well have a group of homins.

The "rescued" homins.

This is fully out of character, but it's just something to chew on.

- N

[raynes]

I just want to point out that no one has hard from the dragon... We Fyro's only stumbled upon the kitin while looking for him, does anyone else make the connection between what the dragon wanted and what the kitin almost did? Does no one else belive that the lest explored area may well house a group of Homins that haven't shown themselves, Homins that work with the dragon? Has anyone considered the possiblity that the dragon is controling the Qeen Kipiee's and through her all of the kitin's?
The harbingers, may well be the example of homins getting along... only its homins with the dragon... The dragon's goals are the Kitin's goals, the actions of the harbingers only serve the kitin. We must explore the roots, we must find its secerts only there will we find a answer to tke kitin threat

Has anyone stopped to think that the dragon, might not be a dragon at all? Instead a spaceship of some type. I mean if you had never seen something that flies, looked up and saw something green with wings and fire comming out of it, isn't it possible that you would think it might be something like a dragon? What if the Karavan and Jena actually shot down the spaceship as they were chasing it. To prevent homins from finding out the truth they sealed off the roots and forbid anyone to explore it. If you look at the pictures someone took on the last page of this thread:
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.p ... ht=strange

There is definatly some sort of machine buried in the roots. And that machine has a propeller and seems to have some sort of propulsion device.

This is the theory that I put my money on.

[jdiegel]

Beam me up Scotty.

[neiana]

Has anyone stopped to think that the dragon, might not be a dragon at all? Instead a spaceship of some type. I mean if you had never seen something that flies, looked up and saw something green with wings and fire comming out of it, isn't it possible that you would think it might be something like a dragon? What if the Karavan and Jena actually shot down the spaceship as they were chasing it. To prevent homins from finding out the truth they sealed off the roots and forbid anyone to explore it. If you look at the pictures someone took on the last page of this thread:
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.p ... ht=strange

There is definatly some sort of machine buried in the roots. And that machine has a propeller and seems to have some sort of propulsion device.

This is the theory that I put my money on.

For the love of Jena, I've said it once and I will say it again:

THAT IS THE TRYKER WINDMILL! It is NOT, nor ever was a "propulsion device". If ANYTHING it was merely the Tryker technology to provide power while we were hiding in the roots! (first page pics)

As for the OTHER pictures, they look oh just a LITTLE bit like a natural tree formation or a temple

- N

[jdiegel]

Forget my questions. The transcript answered them all.

[raynes]

For the love of Jena, I've said it once and I will say it again:

THAT IS THE TRYKER WINDMILL! It is NOT, nor ever was a "propulsion device". If ANYTHING it was merely the Tryker technology to provide power while we were hiding in the roots! (first page pics)

As for the OTHER pictures, they look oh just a LITTLE bit like a natural tree formation or a temple

- N

And what do you have to support the fact that it's the tryker windmill. What peice of information am I missing?