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Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:35 am
by arfindel
Not sure if it's just my memory rusty that's why I don't feel like ticketing but I have the feeling that digging a lower level person's nodes leads to signifficantly decreased number of pieces per node (at same content 22-30 as I dig on my own, and same actions employed). I don't think it's bad to slow down a little PR dig mastering but again I prefer changes be documented.
By "lower level person's nodes" I don't mean somebody without PR terrain specification.
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:37 am
by whiterider
Presumably that'd be because you use a higher source time bonus in your prospection than they do.
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:05 pm
by dakhound
whiterider wrote:Presumably that'd be because you use a higher source time bonus in your prospection than they do.
eww ppl actually use source time .......
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:33 pm
by arfindel
never using any time bonus; always asking to eliminate time bonus
besides if a lower level digger (or another master doesn't make a difference in this situation) uses a time bonus I go out of focus, not dig less pieces per spot so it's slowlier not less materials per spot.
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:17 pm
by kaetemi
Maybe you got the automatic source time bonus from that rite mission thingy?
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:36 pm
by gcaldani
I am one that did that rite long time ago (so, not knowing the disadvantages), so i have to use the max time bonus to get at least 42-44 mats per prospect in solo and with normal pick, not being able to dig more than 2 sources.
Anyway the rite works only for lake mats, so in the other lands I can dig with no time bonus and get 3 sources per prospect, ending up with 45-46 mats per prospect, still in solo and with normal pick.
It's not a big difference, but what is really annoying is that in lakes i need to pop 21+ sources, while elsewhere just 15+ is enough.
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:19 am
by sidusar
I seem to remember from all my years in Ryzom that something like this has happened semi-regularly: No patch, no changes documented, the devs swear they didn't do anything, and yet a whole bunch of players notice that some things seem a little different, while other players haven't noticed any changes.
This was supposed to be the living planet, maybe there's some old piece of randomiser code that sometimes pops up and changes some values around, like a season change but more extensive? That sounds pretty cool to me actually.
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:55 am
by arfindel
my lovely tryker teachers of my newbie days had good care of me and warned against that rite
as I said my focus works normally, I don't remain without focus nor with unused focus, all is good but with same pick and in same gear i get less pieces about 4-5 pieces less on the spots of an 123 level player master in another dig so he has PR spec and all skills...
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:30 am
by audrimas
I noticed I can get 57 mats per prospect without killing any node almost 99%. My focus is 5275, not using time bonus, egiros pick, time bonus from rite, cper. A year ago i was getting 54 mats most of the time. Very rarely 55-57. So i just learned something new or there are really some minor changes.
I didnt try to dig level ~123 nodes, but i did level ~245 and i got same 57 mats.
Re: undocumented changes.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:04 pm
by jared96
arfindel wrote:Not sure if it's just my memory rusty that's why I don't feel like ticketing but I have the feeling that digging a lower level person's nodes leads to signifficantly decreased number of pieces per node (at same content 22-30 as I dig on my own, and same actions employed). I don't think it's bad to slow down a little PR dig mastering but again I prefer changes be documented.
By "lower level person's nodes" I don't mean somebody without PR terrain specification.
I always seem to get far less mats when digging a person with a lower level pops. I thought that was because there was an inherent time bonus from just being a higher level, outside of the time bonus that comes from the stanza addition.
And while I did find time bonus sometimes useful (i.e. when yu continually pulled 1.9 mats) in my early harvesting career, I also don't know any high level peeps using.