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Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:22 am
by browserice
For me, 2 things :
Freedom
The community in/out game
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:08 am
by petersk
Good posts and good points... For me Ryzom was my first MMO, and it spoiled me to no end with the open play, great community, crafting, digging, many tiered skill trees, etc. I rather like my guild in WoW (mostly Ryzomers), but as a few have said, someone from your guild needs to have an alt in your general level range in order for you to go quest grinding with a guildie. If not, you have to roll the dice and hope 1) you can join a team that is doing the same stuff and 2) NOT get a team of 12 year olds to quest with. And yes Sherk, the in-game sales pitches are very annoying to say the least

.
With Ryzom, the most enjoyable part was the journey...from Silan and running from gingos once you reached the mainland, to solo trekking in PR or Grove of Confusion, or some other equally dangerous place. For me the journey to a master WAS the "end game", not the master itself. That was just the icing

. With WoW and a couple others I tried, the constant grind for levels really gets old after a while. And yes, I know joining a plod team is considered by some to be grinding, but at least you had Dai Den and others who wandered around to make it different each time, never knowing if you would get wiped by a surprise attack. Plus, the teams were fun, you never knew when Vrixy or Xyrana would strip down to their underwear and have a romp.
*sighs* How many different ways can you describe how Ryzom was/is the best game going?
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:36 am
by akovylin
dakhound wrote:ryzom being a pretty unique experience as far as mmo's go means many of us have struggled to find their place in other games, largely this is down to the close knit small community of people we have here and the friendships we have developed. If you transplanted our community to another game (say WoW) with our own server etc would that game be as good to you? If not what is it you love about ryzom as a game that makes it stand out from other games?
Ryzom is best cause it has no quests

I don't like WoW tryed to return there for several times and always it was ending the same:
1) study wowhead.com
2) make excel file with step by step progress I need or i might want
3) play a bit
4) understand that when and even if i will reach the "end" (measured in epicness of epics i wear) blizz will launch more epics or just new expansion that will wipe all my progress
5) retire (i have enough work plans i need to progress at work and in rl)
in summ - the things u need or even want to do are predicted and designed at 100% by devs and there's no choise, after u choose spec there's several ways how u can acquire some items and nothing more
only game i've seen with "some kind of freedom" is eve, but.... dig/craft system in eve is idiotic even more idiotic than in WoW... skills khe khe - with their system nothing in development of your character depends of your actions all u need is buy tk trade for isk to buy books and login once a day/week/month to swap skills

whole eve is a big dumb project of dumb iceland stidents that suddenly got attention and money but they even not able to write working code

won't even mention "analysis"
so far for me Ryzom or or or dunno =)
atm trying to get rid of eve, tyred of it very tired with all its systems it is as predictable as WoW in fact... and more dumb...
P.S. no games i tryed are about world and characterss - all games about items abour their rarity drop rates and hours/days/weeks u need to farm ingridients/rep/gold/bosses to get em - and nothing more.... all the same... all about the epics those f... purple pixels =)
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:56 am
by acridiel
akovylin wrote:
4) understand that when and even if i will reach the "end" (measured in epicness of epics i wear) blizz will launch more epics or just new expansion that will wipe all my progress
You mean like
this?
CU
Acridiel
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:07 am
by rabcaz
OOC:
I agree to what have already been said, the community, the freedom, the ambient nature of Atys and many more things are the reasons why I have never found a new home after Ryzom. As mentioned other games have been tried, but never held up interest for more then a week or two, at best.
Perhaps it is as one said that I invested too much into Ryzom, but when I think about it there is really just one thought that that remains - it was worth it. Every login, every chat, every event (which in my opinion was the best ones I have seen yet as there were real people doing them, players, guides and so on, and not just triggered scripted events), every grief that I had to log out since I had to get up to work in 4 hours and so on.
The game and the world is alive because they (the devs) let us make it alive, they do not tie us up in groups or classes which we cannot move outside, they provide us with a world and a place to be, they do not tell us how to live our lives, it is all up to us.
Ryzom is Ryzom, it is as simple as that and I do not think that I will ever see another game with the same uniqueness and splender that Ryzom has.
//OOC
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:42 am
by akovylin
acridiel wrote:You mean like
this?
CU
Acridiel
lol, yup u're completely right
to rabcaz:
yeah after entering mainland i remeber the frustration i had with no quests, but after i managed it (thanks gods or thanks Ma-Duk

) i learned much even usefull in rl - i learned to have my own aims!

after that all persistent entertaining mmos became to well with no taste like food without taste i can eat it cause i need food but no any pleasure

don't like ppl who separate virtual and rl - we all still the same ppl behind those monitors and wires

Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:36 am
by whiterider
I never say anything IC. Never ever. Well OK, I did once. Except nothing I said related to my character, so it was more In-WTH. Anyway, I'm going to say something IC.
IC:
I'm useless, I really am. I'm good at two, maybe three things, and mediocre-to-none at everything else. This is mostly because I spend more time rezzing or being rezzed than I do actually learning to do stuff, and combat training... well, if a Fyros girl could get huge leg muscles from running the Jena away from stuff, I'd look like Ysq.
But that's not a bad thing. Generally if asked I say I'm a healer, because I do love healing; but you'll more often than not find me digging, nuking, or running around in circles going "Lookitmeprettyarmour!". I'm not a warlock, I'm not a warrior, I'm not a bard - and I'm certainly not a human, elf, dwarf, or troll! If I wanted to pretend to be someone else, I would; but I don't, I'm Nysha, and although I'll change just as any person changes, that won't include turning green, or becoming a Focussed Individual.
/IC
Translation: Classes? Boring normal races? Restrictions? Taking it seriously?? Bugger you for a lark.
My first point still stands, though, I'd move with the community - but Nysh wouldn't be the same (I probably wouldn't even name my char Nysh); Ryzom shapes its players as much as its players shape Ryzom.
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:55 am
by rabcaz
whiterider wrote: Ryzom shapes its players as much as its players shape Ryzom.
OOC:
I most certainly agree to that.
//OOC
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:14 pm
by olepi
I will have to mention the Ring here too. It was mind-boggling to get my first real customer

Watch him solve my riddles and quests. No other game comes close to that feeling.
Re: question - boredom kills me
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:22 pm
by iceaxe68
whiterider wrote:Ryzom shapes its players as much as its players shape Ryzom.
*glomp*
That goes in the sig...