Ryzom

sapunkster wrote: Nothing personal, but I like a good fair fight where skill determines the winner, not mechanics. One place I really thought this game would prevail over others too. ='(

If you ever up for team vs team pvp let me know, can go to the nexus or any region of lands of Umbra for a good fair fight where skill and knowledge determines the winner. Fair warning some small chances of getting DP there but if it is a friendly battle i will rez to prevent it.

Sounds great, now give me a few months to get some real skill so you're not using me to wipe up the floor

As for the guilds having their own alliances and such thats all find and dandy but thats all player driven as well. Seeing as players are probably the people who really give a dang about the state of the game, do something. =) I think people get the idea of what i'm trying to say. Sure things seem distant and whatever happiness your looking for in the game might be far off, but that STILL should mean it'll be fun working twords and especially more rewarding once you have it.

Edit - Wish I knew french to see how they're coping with this. If I am really wrong and this game is going down the tubes it'd be nice to know before I make a bunch of friends that i'll wind up never seeing again. Most depressing thing about mmos really. =(

In the end it is always worth making friends, even if you dont keep them or if bad blood is spilled, you always have them in your heart if you care to. For the game going down hill i dont see it happening... but in all honesty i wish i could win the damn lotto and spend all of the money on devs to finish everything in the game that was implemented 70% done... i truly cant think of one thing that seem actually complete in the game atm.

But a friend once told me there are two type of people in ryzom. Those that continue to change the game into something it is not or whine and cry about everything that isnt complete and fade away in time. Then there those that add to the game in small different ways and fall in love with Atys and make it a home and become part of the ryzom family... sorta funny that this was told to me while me and the friend was both playing a different game while taking a small break from ryzom

sapunkster wrote:Beh yeah I hate to say it but it sounds like the mechanics need tweaking. Although on the bright side if thats the biggest problem with it this game is 3984323423 steps ahead of most the streamline MMOs. With those kinds of mechanics it seems to make attackers the huge underdog. So don't expect to see me ever defending whether your a friend or not. Nothing personal, but I like a good fair fight where skill determines the winner, not mechanics. One place I really thought this game would prevail over others too. ='(

and you've pretty much caught up to the point where everyone else is at. pvp could be awesome with some tweaks. right now its pretty much who uses politics to get the people to outnumber the other. there are rare exceptions, but thats generally true.

sapunkster wrote:In the end I still have fun and some sort of feeling of accomplisment. I doubt i'm the only person that feels this way. =)

Dude, I don't agree with all your posts... but as a newer player with an outsider outlook paying attention, I can see you will have fun on either side.

Don't let the pity us thing get to you... they make the same posts on the days they make sleep time attacks on work days.

vguerin wrote: Don't let the pity us thing get to you... they make the same posts on the days they make sleep time attacks on work days.

reminds me of a group making 2 late night / early morning attacks in one day.

pot. kettle. black.

none the less the reality is pretty simple, when you beat you a game, generally you stop playing it. if its really good you replay. but how often do you play the last boss level over and over and over again?

how do you beat ryzom? take all the ops. and then id take a bet alot of people stop playing.
- one you no longer have an enemy at ops, your gonna what, all go tag up and hunt down the enemy who are grinding?
- two most of your opponent has no reason to play anymore. this isnt chess, the score doesnt reset. there is no 'new game' . once one side wins all ops, they get for the most part all the cats, which means they will get more new people by wooing them with cats.

what is it with all the whinging threads lately

want us to give you some outposts or something?

usually works something like this in fair KA land

kami attack
kami attack at stupid time
kami attack
kami attack at stupid time
kara : man am getting bored of these stupid attacks we should kick their asses
kami attack
kami attack at stupid time
kara : ok lets do it
kara attack = kami have 1 less op and complain we are evil

dakhound wrote:what is it with all the whinging threads lately

Maybe we dont all have the courage to change side and go to the more comfortable one.........and of course i'm not flamming anyone here....just talking about aniro.....could never happen on Arispotle

viper579 wrote:how do you beat ryzom? take all the ops. and then id take a bet alot of people stop playing.

Most stupid thing i ever heard. If your only goal is to get cats and if you cant lvl up without them you better leave now, Ryzom isn't for you.

viper579 wrote:- one you no longer have an enemy at ops, your gonna what, all go tag up and hunt down the enemy who are grinding?

Many guilds lost their OP, many guilds never had any and still keep fighting. I dont think Ryzom has so many losers who will quit after all OPs goes to one side.

viper579 wrote:- two most of your opponent has no reason to play anymore. this isnt chess, the score doesnt reset. there is no 'new game' . once one side wins all ops, they get for the most part all the cats, which means they will get more new people by wooing them with cats.

Many new ppl have no idea about cats, about OPs, about politics. In time they will discover whats going. I dont think many will leave guild and friends and join another guild just to get more cats. Its stupid really.

This is my own experience with cats so you wouldn't think i am talking without any idea whats going on. I came to ML an created my char without any idea whats going on, no idea who winning and who losing, no idea what cats are, no idea which guild have more cats, no idea how guild gets those cats, no idea how many cats guild can get per week/month. My best friend in game came after me just because i created fyros char. We just joined first guild we get an invite from. By rules of guild we were getting 3 stacks per week. With those 3 stacks per week i lvl'ed 3 masteries and 2 skills to ~200. So i can say you CAN play without cats.(i mean without cats cause 3 stacks per week when i played about 30-60 hours per week means nothing) OP mats not needed in such quantities like cats so even without owning an OP you can trade or buy or just get from friends (even kamis with karas trading them). If i would join game now, with all knowledge i have i would join guild not with most cats but with most high lvl crafters. Good gear + good team for lvling + knowledge how to lvl up and where to lvl up beats any supply of cats.

dakhound wrote:what is it with all the whinging threads lately

want us to give you some outposts or something?

usually works something like this in fair KA land

kami attack
kami attack at stupid time
kami attack
kami attack at stupid time
kara : man am getting bored of these stupid attacks we should kick their asses
kami attack
kami attack at stupid time
kara : ok lets do it
kara attack = kami have 1 less op and complain we are evil

hahahaha, thats freaking hilarious... These whining threads are making me tired lately, Or give me t he urge to get drunk, but this post made me laugh like hell

Thanks bro, I needed that, School is boring.