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stelf wrote:Maybe I am missing something here Xtarsia but Defenders of Kami have been put forward by a Kami guild and according to Kirijoleths link they are Kami alligned.

Maybe the list is wrong in this instance

Good luck

I think that is a bit nit picky.

If you read my post, I was relating to when I knew them on Cho, the main text of my post related guidence on how to make their post more informative to prospective guilds and to explain to them a bit about the implications of neutrality.....

... Unless you meant Sun Ce's post, where he pointed out specifically DoK are KAMI and probably unsuitable

If so, then apologies

Does anyone else realize how totally and completely insane we all are? i think its gone past bickering, now we're just all froth-at-the-mouth-mad

to the original poster - if you hang around Ingame long enough - you'll make plenty of really really good friends, and will be able to decide for yourself which guild is bestest for you. don't be afraid to hop around guilds and factions till you find the proper home. for me, i just have a guild full of people that don't really want to be in a guild its like we all have our own patch of solo-guild.. so it works great you might want to try something similar? (starting your own guild)

fiach wrote:I think that is a bit nit picky.

If you read my post, I was relating to when I knew them on Cho, the main text of my post related guidence on how to make their post more informative to prospective guilds and to explain to them a bit about the implications of neutrality.....

... Unless you meant Sun Ce's post, where he pointed out specifically DoK are KAMI and probably unsuitable

If so, then apologies

I actually posted them out as a suitable guild, exept for being kami.

tigrus wrote:I actually posted them out as a suitable guild, exept for being kami.

LOL, Same difference, I just meant they were unsuitable because they were Kami, as opposed to Neutral, why are people so sensitive here?

irony of original poster asking for maturity and this thread

Disregard above silliness. Walk around. Hunt in teams. Meet ppl you like to play with. Then you might have found your home.-Kil

Oh dear, ironic indeed as Jack says.

In any case; I think I only ever met one strictly neutral guild (though there are plenty that use faction as convenience to allow access to high level areas) -- that was Veni Vidi Vici -- their members did not participate in factional battles as far as I know (I'm not sure if members were allowed to align themselves to a faction) and were well respected too. But, I am not sure if they are active these days...so I guess I'm no help after all >.<

~Tal

p.s. -- For the record, for some reason, we karavan often self deprecate. Karavan are no more evil than Kami -- I think you'll find both are quite inscrutable, as semi divine folk tend to be (except that Kami take a slightly more active role, they blow you up if you take too many materials while digging).

Dont know about the TS/Ventrilo issue, but the from what I know of them the Fluffies are good people.. the only problem is that they are Kami-neutrals, so if you are a bit more discerning and realise the Karavan are our best hope for saving Hominkind from soul consumption and enslavement by fuzzy midget shapeshifters, then eventually you will have to separate from them.
If on the other hand, if these goals appeal to you I totally endorse the Fluffy Bunnys. Their maturity shows in how they deal with faction issues.
Any Guild can accept neutral members, so the best option is to get into the game, and meet people.

You heard the Kami....
You heard the Kara....

Now you know what faction does to once mature people
Now you know you initial choice of been neutral was the good one

But as was said, take your time, look around, team with ppl...
Make friends and eventually join a guild or make your own

Give me a call in Game if you need any help or advice and I would also like to direct you tho this EXCELLENT thread which may give you a better insight on Neutrality... (contrary to what most player would try to lead you to think: neutrality does not especially mean pacifism)

gillest wrote:(contrary to what most player would try to lead you to think: neutrality does not especially mean pacifism)

Which is exactly why this thread has gone the way it has. To some, neutral means "out of faction" stuff... to other's it means "I fight when it suits me". To some, neutral means "to the highest bidder"...

The TS didn't specify, so the masses either volunteered or had their "not-neutral" friends give them a shout out. It's what makes the game what it is.

For the TS... it has been mentioned, but nothing beats playing and see who plays like you... you might find the "Higher Powers" more or less intriguing that way. Do not depend on the forums to give you a true indicator, we all are tainted...