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Trykers are not a Kami leaning race. TS surrendering their holdings in the jungle has little to do with generosity, they are simply finished with it. It has no value to them, so they throw it away they don't even bother to offer it to those who have supported them, they use it instead to make an appeal to the populus. They spit in the face of their allies in order to raise their own status, they play to the crowd while standing on the blood and sweat of their 'friends'. A very noble deed, indeed.

The Jungle Trykers abandoned the ways of their people in order to support the racial enemies of the Lake Lands. They turned their backs on Jena in order to follow a cult which condemns individuality and freedom, a religion that supports brainwashing and deforming children and now, they seek to bring that cult to the waters of Aeden Aqueous.

50 years ago the Zoari accepted that Ma-Duk was harmless, what can he do, little did they know. Now every Zoari child is seeded with the horns of the demon. There were no masks 40 years ago, now the entire adult race has been transformed a step closer to the image of Ma-Duk and further away from being Homins.

Ignorance, pride, stupidity are not evil, but Ma-Duk is certainly able to feed of those traits. The Kami have been possessed by a demon, they are enslaved by a force that seeks to destroy all independent life. Ma-Duk wants to feed off of us until only his will is left. The Kami have become servants of this evil and they most not be allowed to gain a foothold in the free lands. Their influence must be challenged or all of our children will be controlled by the mask.

Pero

Typical "community" mindset of the "free lunch." There is no such thing. They are paying a price somewhere.. whether that be physical commodities or allegiance. But to disarm the intellect of individuals and "pool" them into a "community" is a practice that sickens me no matter where I see it. RL, in-game, or otherwise. Just seems to me to be something more pervasive on the other side of the fence.

The community OP is a very good iniciative, witch brings a lot of work and fun, I'm sure, toa ll people organizing it. Is a beautyful RP Stanza, and gives a solution for those who don't want or can be in the OP war party.

So, as a good idea it is, stop the propaganda. When the goodwill is done with orchesta and pampleths, it becomes propaganda. If you think that the Community OP is a good idea, you apport to it because is a good idea. But hardly have rigth to make the rest of OP owners feel guilty about it.

A good politycal move disguised of charity, ideed.

Due to the limitation of political support in the game we are left with this unique situation where the politics of the game are played out on the general forum..though I must admit I do smile when I read this thread.

My little zorai character is neutral, but has Kami tendancies due to his race.
Of course I do not participate in the OP battles and I am not a member of any Ryzom guild.
With this in mind I understand I have no right to express where and how the 'spoils of war' should be distributed.

But I also understand I am not a zorai, I do not follow any Kami god, and I do not have Outpost battles raging around me.....
I also make the assumption that those also posting on this forum IN GENERAL CHAT also share this same reality....Therefore I have to ask myself why game character traits are given credit/merit for the actions of a PLAYER.
Please move this to the RP thread if you wish to credit the KAMI/KARAVAN with anything.
Until that time I will continue to marvel at the fine line between game/life

If it is to remain a grey area, my little zorai...and myself..remain grateful to the generosity of those who do share

I may be missing something but since when did Goj reside over 2 OPs ?

What advice can be given to Goj about getting a OP ?

Seems im lost on these comments.......

m1nion wrote:I may be missing something but since when did Goj reside over 2 OPs ?

What advice can be given to Goj about getting a OP ?

Seems im lost on these comments.......

GoJ only has on OP, whirling sronghold.

danolt wrote:Trykers are not a Kami leaning race. TS surrendering their holdings in the jungle has little to do with generosity, they are simply finished with it. It has no value to them, so they throw it away they don't even bother to offer it to those who have supported them, they use it instead to make an appeal to the populus. They spit in the face of their allies in order to raise their own status, they play to the crowd while standing on the blood and sweat of their 'friends'. A very noble deed, indeed.

I'm afraid this is how I see it as well...
How very kind of a Tryker guild to donate a jungle resource.

sehracii wrote:I'm afraid this is how I see it as well...
How very kind of a Tryker guild to donate a jungle resource.

oh i love this arguement, if like you say they are just giving up a jungle OP cos they dont really want it and trying to make out like its a good deed how about the KA do the same thing with the 5 matis owned OPs in fyros and zorai lands?

kyesmith wrote:oh i love this arguement, if like you say they are just giving up a jungle OP cos they dont really want it and trying to make out like its a good deed how about the KA do the same thing with the 5 matis owned OPs in fyros and zorai lands?

The Karavan have a different opinion on the value of OP's and allies.

Either the Kami alliance does not value the Demons Diplomatic OP (what an appropriate name) or TS does not value the alliance. There is no other way to see it.

Pero

kyesmith wrote:oh i love this arguement, if like you say they are just giving up a jungle OP cos they dont really want it and trying to make out like its a good deed how about the KA do the same thing with the 5 matis owned OPs in fyros and zorai lands?

You don't seem to of grasped the point.
We're not the ones to argue that, its the Tryker/Kami. Yet it doesn't apply when they don't want it to.