It's a PvP poll not a flame thread o_o

[dakhound]

I voted yes

reason = I wont post as rushin said flame free and my honest opinion would probably generate them

[andypur1]

Hi all
Long time since I have been here... Hello to my old friends! /hug Rushin + Samsara + Evo etc etc

Love you all and I may be back soon - i'm always considering my return...

*sniff, sniff* No hugs for Zok or the old Project Mayhemers

Zok hopes to soon see his old mentor Alibooma back on Atys, who knows Zok might even have mastered a skill by then

[jamela]

All other things being equal, numerical superiority will always win. Then morale is key ...

Hail Jacko, and Xera and Faa and many others I should not forget to name!

Ouch! 1001 posts, I'll pipe down now

[arfindel]

Voted no.
I enjoy pvp but not this kind of pvp.

In OP wars the effect of winning/losing is the snow ball effect. Everyone who wins has the reward of being the winner and a better chance to win again. That's a logical bug of implementation. The reward of the winner should be winning not a DOT reward. The chances of the losers should be the same after they lose. The current system encourages not game purposes normal aggression, but greed, not solidarity but fear. Because of OP wars open pvp is perceived in a distorted manner and lots of people who would like to pvp are drawn back.

Both Op wars and open pvp are suffering a major problem from bot-healing. Immerison is compromised when your opponent comes back to life in 2 seconds after death, let alone the unfariness aspect. Problem could be addressed in a number of ways from introducing a special rez stanza, different from heal, with a certain cool down to simply check all logs in wars, and take measures against botting.
There are some stupid little mechancial bugs too, but not so hard to fix.

[jamesxie]

I voted No.

I do enjoy PvP, it is most certainly alot of fun facing a player in combat that simply PvE from the unpredictable nature of this form of combat.

Though the reason for my No vote is simply one of two things, Firstly outpost shoud not be FvF, maybe either GvG or PvE has any one tried to take Pai, Lixie, Aen, Sergio on the ATS? Basically it needed much more thought before they were implementd.

Secondly PvP should be encompased in the RP (yes i do like to rp to when in the mood), in this I mean it should be integral to the active and fluidic story of ryzom. I don't know.... The seige of Avendale or the battle of Oasis Rift.
PvP should have content other that kill kill kill IMO obviously thats the point of PvP but at what cost and could it not be improved with horizontal content branching from the main point?

Well there are my two dappers worth.

AllI've seen groups like Infinity and the Knights destroy much greater numbers of opposition (shudders at the memories )

Remember the Honda Accord? Infinity and OmegaV hehe those were the days (yes for all the newer players Infinity a kami guild allied with OmegaV a karavan guild under the mighty alliance of the Honda Accord).
Oh sorry to stray off topic there Jamela

[cygnus]

I also voted No.

Its a start though, just needs a bit more working. Fix the heal bug obviously and I would still like to see it all move away from FvF.

I would also like to see more consequence for an "invading army" eg a Zorai guild attacks a Matis Op, as soon as they flag for battle they are targets for all matis forces. Having mixed race guilds makes this a bit more difficult I suppose. Maybe I'm not exactly sure what it is but it needs something else thats for sure

I always envisioned OP's as more a racial, guild type battle. If for example, France invaded England, I would defend my homeland (England), I would not side with the French because I followed the same religion. With the current way ops work on Aris, if you are kara you are supposed to follow "them" without question, even if they are taking OP's in you own lands and are predominantly not from your own lands....bit strange that one to me.

Of course if you dare to do something different you are then slagged off at will on forums, in game etc etc. IMO that is the biggest fault with PvP and OP wars on Aris. The dominating factors are forcing people to play it their way and restricting their choices or they dont bother getting involved for fear of cosneqeunces.

It's got so bad that people are switching faction, at will, just to be on the winning side. I bet those that have done that used to support whichever football team was top of the league as well

Anyway enough of my ramblings.....

P.S Hi alibooma nice to see you active on the forums at least

[calel]

The three previous posts summed up my general feelings on the current implementation of Ryzom's PvP, so no need to repeat that. Hence a no.

[sprite]

Voted yes. Imo the implementation is fine, mechanics are fine, the problem is out of the dev's hands. Looks like there's two camps here - one says same as me, other says everything is borked.

(As per usual, poll won't be accurate reflection of playerbase, only forumuser-base)

Both Op wars and open pvp are suffering a major problem from bot-healing.

Have you reported this? Imo botting is the lowest of the low, so if think you see anyone doing it, tell me so I can report 'em as well

[licena]

what are you calling "the current implentation"? and what is supposed to be "mass pvp" ? OP battles ?

OP battles are what players want to do. Big guilds like GvG, no surprise here. OP battle needs to have more rewards and create more dramas : this will destroy FvF.

iam sure nevrax understand that we dont want more FvF.

[d29565]

I always envisioned OP's as more a racial, guild type battle. If for example, France invaded England, I would defend my homeland (England), I would not side with the French because I followed the same religion. With the current way ops work on Aris, if you are kara you are supposed to follow "them" without question, even if they are taking OP's in you own lands and are predominantly not from your own lands....bit strange that one to me.

*grin* So, I should go fight with the matis then? (just messin' with you )