Xavier's still at it :)

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I don't see why people are so upset about the Ryzom.org project. Isn't all publicity good publicity? :) They represent a last chance at keeping a version Ryzom alive if other avenues fail. Ryzom.org has only raised 64k euros in pledges. If a serious commercial buyer can't beat that offer, then they weren't all that serious were they?

As for people saying would rather see Ryzom die than continue under Ryzom.org's plans, isn't that a bit selfish? No one would force you to sign up to any new incarnation of Ryzom.
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slive wrote:What would happen to the community-raised money should another company win out the bid?
who knows :(
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flume641 wrote:who knows :(
We do. No one has given any money, so no one can lose any money.
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riveit wrote:I don't see why people are so upset about the Ryzom.org project. Isn't all publicity good publicity? :) They represent a last chance at keeping a version Ryzom alive if other avenues fail. Ryzom.org has only raised 64k euros in pledges. If a serious commercial buyer can't beat that offer, then they weren't all that serious were they?
Because the issue has been polarized. A number of users are thinking that all the community have to join the iniciative because it's good, and because the Free Software is morality better.

But I'm worried with this iniciative, because I think that they are more concerned with the Free Software than whit Ryzom. And I (And, as far a I've seen, the main part of the comunity) want a project fully concerned by ryzom, and not with the free software.

You know, FS is politics, and, personally, I don't want a politices iniciative for this. I'm contributor in a number of FS Projects... but every thing has their place.
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mithur wrote:Because the issue has been polarized. A number of users are thinking that all the community have to join the iniciative because it's good, and because the Free Software is morality better.
I dont know which forums you've been reading, but I certainly havent seen anything like this here.
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As far as i know, Xavier played a major part in developing the basic ideas of Ryzom - who are, btw, for me what makes Ryzom diferent from all the other MMOs. Thats why i'd rather see it in his hands, than in the hands of someone who doesnt understand this fact.

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hmm why did u quote me? lol. I was pointing out that no one is trying to 'make' anyone support something they dont want to.
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rundll32 wrote:hmm why did u quote me? lol. I was pointing out that no one is trying to 'make' anyone support something they dont want to.
wasn't on purpose... corrected it :)

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martl wrote:. Thats why i'd rather see it in his hands
Even if his hands dont have 2 thin dimes to rub together to make it go?

Its a given ryzom as of the day the receivorship was announced to go into effect is going to be different even if some well meaning original dev (that no longer works for nevrax as it is now) takes it over its gonna change.

Whatever happens ryzom is going to be changing because the company that runs it and puts in the ideas and makes it all "go" is leaving

This is something we are gonna have to accept no matter who's hands it falls into its gonna be different. I think it will be the most different if it suddenly becomes a free sourcecode mainly due to the fact that all these servers now will go bye bye as he is only buying the code/art etc not the entire company. Have no illusions about that Ryzom will change big time if this happens

The least disruptive solution would be for a company that already handels games to come in and take all the information and make these servers theirs. (or at least the contents intact moved over onto their servers)

Free source code would result in this particular version of ryzom ending very fast hehe and so should be considered a last resort big time. (no crystal balls are gonna be needed for that unless or course nevrax has plans to make off with a copy of the entire game databases and all and give them to this guy to load onto his server before the hard drives get wiped or uh smushed up or uh whatever might happen if this code is not sold to a gaming company -course then we are assuming he has a server to load them on and ... then.. )
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