100% supreme recipe degrades

[ajsuk]

I've noticed the same kind of things between my mastered higher branches, similar to Pos and Nilly but can't say I've seen mats having much to do with it, but the Master and OP tools deffo seem to have an effect...

-Mastered skills for goodness sake shouldn't be worse!
-If OP tools have to effect the success rates then it should be noted and effect what the craft window SR tells you.
-Knowing if Sup, exc mats etc effect SRs would also be nice to know though for sure.

This could do with addressing...

French math...

[praha]

I've also noticed that the type stat boost on the craft also plays into this. Crafting Focus Jewels vs HP Jewels of the same QL, I and several others noticed that Focus boost items are waay more prone to degrade/fail. Grind crafting with no counterpart, at your QL or lower will provide the least amount of degrades.

I wouldn't be suprised that to hear that the following is true (and at least is true in my experience, minus the * items):

QL 250 no boost (least degrade)
QL 250 with 100 HP or less (with the 250 counterpart)*
QL 250 with 100 Focus or less (with the 250 counterpart)*
QL 250 with 125 HP
QL 250 with 125 Focus (degrade/fails the most)

[dollly]

as holder of 6 ha master titles... let me tell you....degrades are more with sups,also if trying to max stats for parry /dodge and slash/smash or pierce.... degrades will be higher... when i craft all exe i rarely get degrades... and degrades are consistently higher q when made with exe mats ...on a side note wth is with q100 degrades... i could see getting some around the 200's but 90% of all my degrades come out q100/fine.... when all mats are sup..... pardon my french but this is F'd up in my opinion

[ajsuk]

hehe Dolly, as with you and Snake I've noticed q100 is the common one... don't get it either... @.o

[praha]

Have you tried rebooting? I've heard that helps

[tylarth]

the q100s are a maximum degrade (is alway a max of 40% the intended qual), this is consistant with the max when lvling. the higher the skill % for the success does produce more extreme degrade results when they occur.

Contrary to most here i haven't mathmatically witnessed any significant deviation between tool, grade or boost when using my master skills for success or not, i do of course notice bad runs, because i expect to succeed, so my theory is, it is mostly psycological that ppl think the code is wonky.

[nonde]

Addition:

I get the same degrades with excs as sup - both unacceptable levels imo - up to 7 in a row with exc and choice mats too. Very many exc and choice jewels have failed these hands so big sample for comparison heh.

Zysha

[nonde]

it is mostly psychological that ppl think the code is wonky.

I got runs of 4 degrades of Q100 in a row, 7 fails in a row, multiple fails in a row all to same other Qs, and 50% success on 5 uber weapon crafts when a "master" wonky - if I'm being polite . An apprentice would be fired if they trashed that many of the boss's mats!

Zysha

[borg9]

I got runs of 4 degrades of Q100 in a row, 7 fails in a row, multiple fails in a row all to same other Qs, and 50% success on 5 uber weapon crafts when a "master" wonky - if I'm being polite . An apprentice would be fired if they trashed that many of the boss's mats!

Zysha

I guess what goes around comes around, as the old saying goes.

[andypur1]

I got runs of 4 degrades of Q100 in a row, 7 fails in a row, multiple fails in a row all to same other Qs, and 50% success on 5 uber weapon crafts when a "master" wonky - if I'm being polite . An apprentice would be fired if they trashed that many of the boss's mats!

Zysha

When ever Zok gets a failure, he'll generally pause from hitting the craft button for a few seconds before trying again. This seems to prevent the long runs of fails / degrades to same Q. Of course, Zok has no master titles to try this strategy out on, so it may not work at lvl 250.

[OOC]
My personal view is that there is something a bit 'wonky' with the random numbers used in the crafting calculations, but without seeing the code, it is hard to know.
[/OOC]

Maybe these strings of degrades could be thought of as a bit of dirt that needs to be cleaned off the tool, or something like that