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Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:21 pm
by 0balgus0
tigrus wrote:*Some* guild should challenge that OP...

And forget about the small guilds (not strong/big enough to have a piece of the OP cake) who are still benefitting from the OP? Lovely :rolleyes:

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:23 pm
by andypur1
xeraphim wrote:I would like to see a breakdown of where those cats have been, and are currently being distributed to, and in what proportions....
If im being ignorant and this is posted somewhere else please enlighten me.
See

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?p=346838

I think that 3/7 days worth of cats / mats / flowers go to the distributors (Eleytheria ATM), whilst the rest are split evenly between the guilds on the list.

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:25 pm
by tigrus
0balgus0 wrote:And forget about the small guilds (not strong/big enough to have a piece of the OP cake) who are still benefitting from the OP? Lovely :rolleyes:
Hmm, considering that ReCon (my guild) only has 2 members atm. Hmm, yupp some guild should challenge it.

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:28 pm
by xeraphim
0balgus0 wrote:And forget about the small guilds (not strong/big enough to have a piece of the OP cake) who are still benefitting from the OP? Lovely :rolleyes:
He said "some" guild.
There are several growing guilds with no OP.. who could own it.. I dont think LT is suggesting a powerhouse guild take it.

I'm just wondering where the produce is curently going.. Eley seem all but inactive to me, with only a couple of members i see from time to time..
TW i know recive some cats from here but again.. seem almost inactive with only a couple of players knocking about. that seems to indicate that theres alot of cats going to a small number of homins or a big cat sink..

Or maybe there are many reciveing the cats.. I dont know.. perhaps someone can enlighten me??

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:31 pm
by xeraphim
TY Zok :D

Sorry for double post..
Reading the list can anyone confirm that all of these guild recive and have been reciveing thier share regularly?
And if so do the 1 man guilds recieve the same as a larger guild?

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:35 pm
by andypur1
xeraphim wrote:He said "some" guild.
There are several growing guilds with no OP.. who could own it.. I dont think LT is suggesting a powerhouse guild take it.

I'm just wondering where the produce is curently going.. Eley seem all but inactive to me, with only a couple of members i see from time to time..
TW i know recive some cats from here but again.. seem almost inactive with only a couple of players knocking about. that seems to indicate that theres alot of cats going to a small number of homins or a big cat sink..

Or maybe there are many reciveing the cats.. I dont know.. perhaps someone can enlighten me??
This was the whole point of the community OP, lots of small guilds with only a few homins receive a share, without having to beg or trade for them. I also know that the Celestial Eagles of Atys receive stuff, and I have seen several other people from the list receiving stuff too. I can't remember if the shares were per guild or per homin, I think that there was some discussion of this before I joined.

{EDIT}
Whoops Xeraphim was too quick for me ;)

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:57 pm
by naratuul
sprite wrote:By Rothimar's definition of "True Neutral" the only ones that can be argued imo are Vx3 and TNH. Maybe RRA (sorry but the rabid trykerness is an even larger alignment than factions so I wouldn't count them as such) and I'd say OotDB too but I think most hardcore kamists and some noted members of Samsara would disagree :o

Last time I checked TNH wanted to stay out of OPs entirely but that might have changed.
Clarification of TNH's stance so everyone understands:
TNH is a Kara guild, but we are not politically motivated. As far as OPs are concerned we can and will defend Kara OP's as necessary, but we are not expansionists.

I guess you could call us a Moderate Karavan Guild, we don't hold the hardcore stance that DT promotes yet we do have our limits in what we find acceptable in interfaction interaction. (I.E. We do not team with or res tagged kami combatants).

I am fond of saying that its your actions not your faction that determines our attitude toward you. Just because you are a known Kamist or Neutral does not mean we are hostile to you, nor does the simple fact that you are a known Karavaner make you instantly our best friend (though Kara will get the appropriate level of support as fellow followers of Jena, unless their actions determine otherwise).

To make it clear from an IC standpoint we like to look at it this way: We are all homins, just some misguided ones choose to follow the Kami. We don't feel that bloodshed is the only answer, though sometimes it becomes necessary in the course of events.

And yep Spriteh is dead on with the final analysis- TNH isn't interested in running an OP at this time. We are a small guild based on teamwork communication and trust- those are our cats. And as for OP mats- we hope that people understanding of our beliefs and playstyle are willing to engage in trade with us for an ocassional OP mat.

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:58 pm
by wardone
sprite wrote:Why? It's not a kami guild that "runs" (note I didn't say owns) it at the moment.

eleytheria guild kami fame was 58 btw when i was a member so not kami u say ok u must be right u always are after all

**sigh**

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:00 pm
by sprite
wardone wrote:eleytheria guild kami fame was 58 btw when i was a member so not kami u say ok u must be right u always are after all
Eleytheria owns the OP, it doesn't run the OP; Zysha and the community do. A little less sarcasm would be nice too but hey :rolleyes:

Re: Community OP - Who will run it?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:04 pm
by wardone
sprite wrote: A little less sarcasm would be nice too but hey :rolleyes:

Rofl oh please...........

**shakes head and walks away from thread**