Ryzom

hmm just done some checking and its gone up in price a lot since i got mine.. have crucial which is a good make, its not the performance version but still good i think. prices are now more like £65 for a gig o.o

Well, I upgraded to 2 GB of RAM from 1 GB.

Well, it didn't perform like expected. I guess my problem is CPU bound. I've got an Athlon XP 2800+ and ATI X800XT Platinum.

There was a little bit of a difference, however, the annoying pause with the "Please Wait" icon is still there and there isn't anything I can do about that one.

On a side note, has anyone noticed a difference in performance with just using different versions of Windows XP? I've recently switched from XP Professional back to XP Hope because the Professional wasn't recognizing my AGP port and things seem to be slower now, startup wise etc..

rushin wrote:i know it really doesnt help any with you deciding but

that is so not true.

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Sorry Rushin, I was assuming most people were referring to frame rate when they were talking about game performance. I wouldnt know if more ram would help my loading times or not. I know that I port fast comparable to my guild, but that kinda data is just as intangible as everything else that has been said on this thread.

I still stand by my... your not gonna get a decent framerate unless you have an Intel chip over 3.0 ghz or an amd64 about 3800+ or so.

Just like that guy with an XP2800+... really doesn't matter what your other machine specs are unless your processor is good enough.

If someone can send me a screenshot of the Ryzom process itself using a significant amount of RAM, more than 900 megs, then I will concede that having more than a gig could possibly make a difference.

I can't get it to use more than 600 megs no matter how hard I try. Random people saying they saw a benefit from upgrading could have background processes.

Remember, your stock Dell probably uses 350 megs of RAM after startup, while a tuned system uses about 160. 600 + 950 is pretty close to that gigabyte right there... if you have anything else open then that gigabyte would help you?

I am citing all I have ever seen the actual Ryzom process use, according to the system task manager. I would expect that to be the definitive data for the amount of memory the process uses.

qatzer wrote: I currently have 2 Gig of OCZ ram (£160), along with an Athlon 64 4000+ and a 7600GTX Extreme and this game runs absolutely perfectly with all settings at full (including AA and AF).

Qatzer, in both cases your processors are über. Most people need to get their processors up to your level first.

Frame rates in 3D games are still potentially CPU bound, even with a super duper graphics card, you'll still see problems with slower older CPUs and in many cases, the latest greatest graphics cards won't tap their full capability in that type of system.

The GPUs of today do calculations and computations, but not all of them, because they cannot do all the computations involved in rendering 3D scenes, the processor does some work, if it's slow, then your frame rates will be lower than the same amount of physical RAM, the same graphics card, etc.

I suspect that the thread starter sees a lot of issues for the same reason I do (I already have 1 GB of RAM), but two MP 2200 CPUs, which are slower than most modern gaming machines by a good bit. XP 2800 is the same generation of older, slower chip.

The motherboard architecture has a lot to do with it too, PCI express is faster by definition than an AGP verison of the same card (the bus is 2x as big, so more bits moving over time).

More RAM may have helped you as much as that machine can be helped until you upgrade your machine.

Good luck!

amitst wrote:Qatzer, in both cases your processors are über. Most people need to get their processors up to your level first.

Fair comment, but my daughter plays using an Athlon XP1800+ and GeForce 4, and while I will admit that loading times are absolutely horrendous, once the game has loaded it's not too bad at all, sure there's room for improvement but it's perfectly playable with sensible graphics settings.

One thing that did dawn on me, if the game is running somewhat on the "laggy" side, watch the hard drive LED, if that's flickering on and off in time with the lag then it's because the swap file is being accessed and that would indicate extra ram would help. If the disk LED is off while the screen is jittery then it's more likely that CPU or Graphics card are the problem area.

Regular defrags will always help with these types of game too. Bear in mind that the defrag utility bundled with Windows is not great, something like Norton Speed Disk does a far better job.

It's also worth setting the swap file to a fixed size rather than letting Windows mess about with it, and if you can set your swap file to a completely separate hard drive even better. Defrag the second drive BEFORE moving the swap file over to it. The ideal scenario is to have Windows on one drive, Ryzom on a second drive, and the swap file on a 3rd drive (note, partitions don't count, has to be a physically separate hard drive or it won't make any difference).

If your PC isn't quite up to the job there are lots of little things that will help to eek out that extra bit of performance from it, it all adds up, along with bios and driver updates, and bios tweaks (default bios settings will never give you the best performance). http://www.guru3d.com is a good place to go for drivers.

Lastly, before you launch the game, go into task manager and close down all unnecessary processes, things like msn messenger etc. Norton software like Norton Antivirus & Internet Security in particular are awful resource hoggers if left running in the background while you play.

You sure you don't mean a xp2800+?

I don't believe its possible to get much more than 10 fps with a system wiht an 1800+.... but then some peopel told me they run on pIII 1 ghz... so I guess anything is possible

Nope, definitely an 1800+, I had to reinstall it a few weeks ago and distinctly remember thinking "damn, this PC needs a serious upgrade" lol

To add another opinion here.

i run Ryzom on my AMD 64 3800+ (single core)
2GB ram
ATi X1600 (512MB) video card
Sound blaster live 24 (PCI)

I run the game full screen at 1280 X 1024 with fairly high detail levels and it runs like a dream.

The ATi card is my real pride and joy of my system and whats more it was a great price only €100 (about $110) it really improved the performance of my system over my previous card (Nvidia 6800 256Mb)