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Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 2:19 am
by jamela
apolo wrote:... if u want to kill peeps without any provocation, u can do it, thats the PR. Just wanted to express that what u are doing is just the kind of things that make peeps leave the game.
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rundll32 wrote:... I kill you cause I enjoy pvping.
Nuff said.

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:44 am
by grimjim
rundll32 wrote:When I enter PR I get a message saying be careful you are now attackable.

Your consenting to pvp when you enter the zone. Its pretty simple really.
No, you're not, you're being made vulnerable to it, not consenting to it. Of course, you can read threads 6 months old on this aspect but they didn't seem to get through then so I'm doubting they'd get through now.

If I walk through a dark alley in a bad part of town late at night dragging a sack of money I'm not actually consenting to being mugged and it's still a crime to mug me.

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:46 am
by grimjim
rundll32 wrote:I was replying to jyudas in my last post, not you.

I kill you cause I enjoy pvping.

Nuff said
There's this thing called 'other people' you might want to also consider before you act, and your effect upon them.

Kill tagged people, whatever the zone, and you know 100% that they consent to PvP and enjoy it, same as you do. Then there's no problem for anyone. Why is that unacceptable?

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:49 am
by sumoman
Come on guys, just set ur compass to 125 and half watch it, it is easy enough to look for the faction dots

Now Rundll be nice, dont me make log in 2 kick ur ass

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:05 am
by iphdrunk
grimjim wrote:No, you're not, you're being made vulnerable to it, not consenting to it. Of course, you can read threads 6 months old on this aspect but they didn't seem to get through then so I'm doubting they'd get through now.

If I walk through a dark alley in a bad part of town late at night dragging a sack of money I'm not actually consenting to being mugged and it's still a crime to mug me.

Although I agree with your point -- maily the difference between being vulnerable and consenting --, there is a slight difference in your analogy. Gratuitious PK could in fact be penalized somehow (either by game mechanics or lack of them, by social reputation), but the small flaw in your argument is that you are comparing the notion of crime in RL -- where there are implications and pretty much laws -- with the action of killing other homins IG, who is a complicated matter since one must also consider that to some extent, we are encouraged to by factions. Simply put, there is not a "common moral agreement that it is a bad thing to do" if you take into account the background and its several interpretations.

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:41 am
by arfindel
rundll32 wrote:I was replying to jyudas in my last post, not you.

I kill you cause I enjoy pvping.

Nuff said
You call killing people in focus gear 'pvp'?
Ah, yeah, that explains loads of things...


One only thing I don't understand yet: how does it feel killing somebody who has no resists, is in focus jewles and focus armor, eventually digging in lag, therefore who dies in one hit?
You feel proud, contend, revenged, happy, eased, high, appeased, gratificated, fulfilled. Check all that apply.

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:30 am
by grimjim
iphdrunk wrote:Although I agree with your point -- maily the difference between being vulnerable and consenting --, there is a slight difference in your analogy. Gratuitious PK could in fact be penalized somehow (either by game mechanics or lack of them, by social reputation), but the small flaw in your argument is that you are comparing the notion of crime in RL -- where there are implications and pretty much laws -- with the action of killing other homins IG, who is a complicated matter since one must also consider that to some extent, we are encouraged to by factions. Simply put, there is not a "common moral agreement that it is a bad thing to do" if you take into account the background and its several interpretations.
I have a very long and complicated answer to this, but it's not just game applicable and mat offend people on other grounds that have nothing to do with the game.

Short version - selfish = bad.

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:58 am
by targosz
sumoman wrote: Now Rundll be nice, dont me make log in 2 kick ur ass
Maybe that is what many highlevelers are waitng for?
After Infinity and other power Kamists left, some of us realy miss real foes- the one that many of us were training hard to face one day.
I even expressed my feelings recently during SN- when mighty warriors from both factions were digging together side by side like lambs ;p
I'm happy that homins like Itsmagic and Yaffle are back but they look kinnda fluffy this days (soft version ) ;) maybe after gearing bit of they "naughty" nature will go back...
This days youngsters seem to have so tender and delicate soul that all they can is moaning at forums instead to try to solve this in warrior way..
*coughs*
...manhunts..
..old times..were guilds were defending it's members..
..steing reward for bad boys head..
..having guts to try face..
...WAKE UP U SLEEPING TURTLES !...
..STOP MOANING...
..HAVE FUN...


*runs fast to her apartment to sort gear , just in case if Bad Kami Boys read this post and maybe even decided to come back*

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:00 am
by kyesmith
targosz wrote:Maybe that is what many highlevelers are waitng for?
After Infinity and other power Kamists left, some of us realy miss real foes- the one that many of us were training hard to face one day.
I even expressed my feelings recently during SN- when mighty warriors from both factions were digging together side by side like lambs ;p
I'm happy that homins like Itsmagic and Yaffle are back but they look kinnda fluffy this days (soft version ) ;) maybe after gearing bit of they "naughty" nature will go back...
Tag up in ykr, our GH is there so we will do our best to kill you as we go past, i cant say that the karas are giving anyone a challenge...
tag up

Re: PR diggers hunters

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:01 am
by targosz
kyesmith wrote:Tag up in ykr, our GH is there so we will do our best to kill you as we go past, i cant say that the karas are giving anyone a challenge...
tag up
U bet I will ;)

Lets heat up this peaceful atmosphere *evil grin*