Ryzom

rellis wrote:Why such a hostile post Kos?

I am not harassing the powers to be to tell all or divulge all this information. wat i clearly said was let the people who are banned to have their say.This would not be nevrax giving out private information. granted they are providing the medium.


The reason i posted in the first place was because i was annoyed the fact that people were giving out about the 'banned' people from having their say. i believe they are entitled to have their say. Is everyone not allowed to have a word in their defence?.

Souls has said before that he will allow us to discuss wat we wish(within reason ofc) as long as it stays flame free and we keep it clean. Your above post is edging towards wat he does not want.

So if all this is annoying you, dont click into the thread. let those who wish to listen to the explanations do so.

A banned player is banned from participating in the games and forums. Posting for a banned player is like letting him play your account

As far as the explanations, I understand the morbid curiosity of the community. But the fact is that Nevrax determined through logs that there is more to the story than the parties will admit. So you are only hearing the cleaned up story... kinda like Bill Clinton's assertations that he never inhaled or ...

I can't believe this .... Can we please move on guys ? its pointless ....Yes we can talk all day/night about it but no we can't change it so why waist our time?

If they were banned then they were banned for a reason ... if they come back then thats up to the GMs I liked the players that were banned BUT if they did these things they got what they deserved ... Have A nice night all please lets move on I ask you all this as a friend both ingame and out were waisting our time...

P.S. If Iv never met you then im asking you as a fellow player

rellis wrote:So if all this is annoying you, dont click into the thread. let those who wish to listen to the explanations do so.

If I hear that reasoning used for one more thing in this game I think my head is going to explode.

And I'm hostile cause I'm tired of hearing people say they have a right to know when they don't. Banned players don't have a right to say anything on these forums. Otherwise they wouldn't be banned.

Fasi was a friend, I'll miss him. But if he and the others wanted me and others to know what happened, they'd find a way to tell us, but it doesn't have to be on these forums and really I'm tired of seeing it on these forums when it's over and done with.

As Souls said, can we get back to the game please and get passed this.

kostika wrote:If I hear that reasoning used for one more thing in this game I think my head is going to explode.

And I'm hostile cause I'm tired of hearing people say they have a right to know when they don't. Banned players don't have a right to say anything on these forums. Otherwise they wouldn't be banned.

Fasi was a friend, I'll miss him. But if he and the others wanted me and others to know what happened, they'd find a way to tell us, but it doesn't have to be on these forums and really I'm tired of seeing it on these forums when it's over and done with.

As Souls said, can we get back to the game please and get passed this.

Seconded.

I'd go one step further and ask the originator of this thread to close it. We're so far off topic now its ridiculous.

mehanson wrote:Seconded.

I'd go one step further and ask the originator of this thread to close it. We're so far off topic now its ridiculous.

Agreed

*nods*

whats happend has happened - if i hear ONE more person saying 'if you dont like it go away' ima puke myself - its really annoying and very stuck up - this is our game and we're not going to turn a blind eye to everything. we are allowed our opinions as well (we bieng those that feel the way i do about this.. i do not talk for anyone/my guild.. merely stating an opinion).

so please stop using the 'if you dont like it, go away' idea - its really doing nothing to lighten up moods.

I can't understand what is so hard to comprehend here...

1. Two players (that I know of) received lifetime bans - from the game AND the forums.
2. They did more than "account sharing" (or else Kye would have had a lifetime ban too).
3. We do NOT have a right to know what happened.
4. Those banned do NOT have a right to have their version of the story posted HERE.
5. Those of you that are bothered by the constant rumors, don't perpetuate them; stop talking about it and move on.
6. Regardless of whether we know the whole story(ies) or not is irrelevant. It is not up to US to decide whether their punishment(s) were just or not - that is Nevrax's job....and THEIR RIGHT.
7. There is no "freedom of speech" on a mmorpg forum. This is not a democracy. Ryzom, and official Ryzom forums, are the property of Nevrax and THEY are solely responsible for what they allow to be posted here. You want freedom of speech? Go open your own forums.

This is my final post on this subject, and I honestly wish this thread would just be closed - or completely removed.

ajsuk wrote:Privacy, also. You'd moan like hell if the CSR came out with it all.
and dont you mean, freedom to speculate?

It has always been, and always will be pointless talking about it as we'll never hear one side of the story. Thats why I didn't take part in the poll and why I havn't commented before now. Just drop it.

OMG I agree with Jayce AGAIN!

Well said, this is just BORING!

I also agree that letting someone post on your account is like sharing accounts and we know where that gets you. Or at least we can speculate!

The only thing anyone (except Nevrax because they know the full story and should keep it to themselves) can say is something went on, some people got banned for it. END of story. Anything else is none of our business. It's not like Nevrax would needlessly ban anyone is it? Whatever ban each player got (full, partial whatever) I'm sure was entirely justified.

I also agree 100% with Kost and don't think it was hostile, just the post of someone sick of this whole pointless debate.

Hey Souls, if I put in some swear words will you lock this pointless thread?*






* That's kind of a joke BTW.

philu wrote: Hey Souls, if I put in some swear words will you lock this pointless thread?*

* That's kind of a joke BTW.

lol - Well I wasn't gunna sware but if I woke up and this thread had continued down its pointless road (as expected) I was gunna suggest it be closed.

ajsuk wrote:lol - Well I wasn't gunna sware but if I woke up and this thread had continued down its pointless road (as expected) I was gunna suggest it be closed.

Amen to that.

My brain has now started translating these pointless posts as 'blah blah blah'.