Spawn Killing

[rundll32]

Nothing at all, maybe the buzz that you were so cool you nuked someone, You were so l33t you pwned them g00d!!11111. I cannot seriously get my head round the concept that ANYONE would or could be proud of such an action. It's like picking on the handicapped kid at school, kicking someone who has gone down when you arent involved in the fight.

How anyone can even attempt to justify such an action is beyond me. To actually try and shift the blame to Nevrax and the game mechanics is even worse! YOU JUST DONT DO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. Thats it, no inbetween, no discussion, no justification, no ethics, morals etc.

If you do, then you deserve everything that comes your way, to be shunned and shamed as if you did the same irl.

It happens if we let it happen, so lets not let it happen. Nevrax don't need to fix this, we fix it. Real easy real simple............

i didnt say anything about game mechanics with regard afk killings - that was in reference to spawn killing.

neither did i say anything about being proud of killing afkers.

your comparison of killing afk people with picking on handicapped people is somewhat flawed in so far as handicapped people do not choose to be handicapped. people who wish to go afk CAN choose wether or not to do so in a pvp zone/or with pvp enabled.

kicking someone who is down when you arent involved in the fight? If i had pvp enabled - and someone of the opposing faction did also - then we are involved in the fight - if theyre daft enough to go afk whilst in a fight thats there problemo not mine.

comparing killing an afker to doing the same in real life is idiotic...and i dont appreciate the connotations.

my point at the beginning of this was that afk killing is not against CoC - and therefore technically allowed.

[rundll32]

Thought we had a mature comnity ...

whats that got to do with anything - if youre playing within the constraints of the game you can do as you please. its your game - you pay for it - play it as you want.

[thlau]

Thought we had a mature comnity ...

The year is 2525 Atys is entirely occupied by a mature community. Well not entirely! One small group of indomitable gankers and grievers still holds out against the nice people. And life is not easy for the nice people who garrison the fortified towns of Fairhaven, Pyr, Yrkanis and Zora...

[rundll32]

The year is 2525 Atys is entirely occupied by a mature community. Well not entirely! One small group of indomitable gankers and grievers still holds out against the nice people. And life is not easy for the nice people who garrison the fortified towns of Fairhaven, Pyr, Yrkanis and Zora...

....its not grieving - and i dont even pvp anymore due to my guilds stance - im just presenting an argument

[rushin]

if youre playing within the constraints of the game you can do as you please. its your game - you pay for it - play it as you want.

now that my friend is exactly the problem. i dont have to explain why do i?

[rundll32]

now that my friend is exactly the problem. i dont have to explain why do i?

yeah go for it - im intrigued

[rushin]

yeah go for it - im intrigued

fine, a simple sentence then an explanation.

It's not your game, its our game; me, you, every single person who plays.

What you and I do, the way we behave, affects everyone else. That's called a community, you have responsibility to others - the game is not here to fill every little whim players might have but to provide an enviroment where we interact with each other. This generally involves having a certain amount of respect for others, and not just doing what you want because you can.

Suggesting that Nevrax impose a police state and control everyone's actions down to the smallest thing is plain silly. We need to act in ways that are broadly acceptable to everyone. Just because you can do a thing doesnt mean that you should.

[rundll32]

yeah ok I understand what youre saying.

you may have partly misunderstood me - im not asking nevrax to sort afk killing. The spawn killing should be fixed however as that is without doubt negatively effecting the game.

or maybe you meant in so far as my argument that you can play within the constraints - that nevrax shudnt have to stop afk ganks as we just shouldnt do it.

i do understand the community and how it operates and co exists on atys. i think that a degree of respect is and should be cultivated and encouraged.

id also like to make clear that i no longer participate in pvp due to my guilds stance on it - and havent done for some time so i dont want this to reflect negatively on me. im meerely presenting an argument as im away from my gaming comp for a few days so have to resort to posting

however - from a seemingly selfish point of view - you do not have to actively try to fit in with the community (tho admitedly you would be missing alot). if you want to level up and fry some people in pvp then i think that thats your decision - and you shouldnt be trolled and generally abused for it.

equally - people who like the role play aspect of the game could justify such actions - as it ties in with the conflict between the karavan and kamis religions.

while i understand and to some extent agree with your views - at the end of the day should you not be allowed to make your own decisions about how you handle yourself in game (within reason) without being flamed/abused/trolled? The fact remains that killing afk people - who have chosen to leave themselves open to such a fate - is not against the games rules - and is not grieving in the true sense of the word.

though i sometimes frown upon the things i see people doing in game - who am i to tell them how to play the game they pay for? the community - and acceptance by - is an added extra - but not a neccesity. So they can do as they please (so long as they follow the rules of the game) without me being able to truly justify telling them to do otherwise.

meh im quite enjoying this debate lol - i seem to be the only one willing to defend the gankers tho haha

[kyesmith]

as a kami tagged 99% of the time i dont see the issue,if i went afk in dyron i wudnt expect to be alive when i came back, if anyone is stupid enough to do so, their problem, theres no DP either so no major issue as far as i am concerned, killing at TPs SHOULD be allowed, im not talking waiting at ykr TP for people to come in, im talking about people who start nuking then run to TPs for safty, as soon as u finish them off you have a GM on you.
Alot of people do that, its sad and pathetic....
My policy...
If you have PvP on expect to be killed and dont expect and sympathy when your dead, being tagged is at your own risk

[rundll32]

ahh - ive been waiting for you to turn up kye rofl