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Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:11 am
by knitcucumber
omsop wrote:btw, do not go on about races & such sticking to their own lands when you do infact have Matis & Fyros in your Guild.
Clarification as to what I meant... we are a Zorai based guild, filled with mostly Zorai. We do have a few other race members, but they are willing to live and die as Kami and Zorai-at-heart. No matter what color their skin is.

I guess what I meant when I was talking about us defending our land's stuff against other races and such... I was mostly talking about guilds that are based in other races and or Karavan. It's getting way past bed time so this reply may not have come across exactly as I thought it would when I first started typing.

I was going to not even bring up the fact that earlier in this thread almost all Zorai were grouped into one big group and called a name which I consider to be profane. But as I continued reading this thread it started to bother me more and more. Just because Zorai seems to have less avatars than many of the lands, and we have a guild that some people have issues with, does not mean you can call all, or most of the Zorai players names. I've only met one Zorai player that I thought that name would fit.

It's that kind of name calling and behavior which makes some Zorai want to keep our toys to ourselves.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:40 am
by knitcucumber
omsop wrote:it's gone off topic here, i believe the point of this thread was to SEE if things are going to be the same on the EE server as they were on the US Server, ppl break the Rules & the GM's/Dev's do nothing about it, was it cause they lack of players on the US server that nothing was ever done?, now that the EE Server will be More populated, Are the GM's allowed to start showing some authority when needed?
Now here is where I make my first enemy in life...

The original post was about botting... which I agree is bad and should result in punishment.

It was also about "a guild" and the agro pulling they have been accused of. If it had just been about the topic of agro pulling without the bringing in specifics of "a guild" I wouldn't have even bothered posting any replies at all. It was put here to point fingers and say "hey... lookie here... hey... new GMs... watch this guild. They're eeeeevil."

I agree... agro pulling is wrong and should be punished. When it is done on purpose and actually happened.

I would hope that the powers-that-be on the EE server enforce the rules. If and when they are broken. Unenforced rules just make things worse. And the idea that rules weren't enforced because there just weren't that many people playing... kinda silly. Why would you want to allow people to break the rules, thus upsetting other players who would then quit. Making the player base even smaller. Rules aren't enforced only when the server population gets above a certain number. They are enforced when they are broken.

Lastly... silly question time. Who is thexdane in game? I want to know who is killing me later.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:15 am
by omsop
knitcucumber wrote:Now here is where I make my first enemy in life...

The original post was about botting... which I agree is bad and should result in punishment.

It was also about "a guild" and the agro pulling they have been accused of. If it had just been about the topic of agro pulling without the bringing in specifics of "a guild" I wouldn't have even bothered posting any replies at all. It was put here to point fingers and say "hey... lookie here... hey... new GMs... watch this guild. They're eeeeevil."

I agree... agro pulling is wrong and should be punished. When it is done on purpose and actually happened.

I would hope that the powers-that-be on the EE server enforce the rules. If and when they are broken. Unenforced rules just make things worse. And the idea that rules weren't enforced because there just weren't that many people playing... kinda silly. Why would you want to allow people to break the rules, thus upsetting other players who would then quit. Making the player base even smaller. Rules aren't enforced only when the server population gets above a certain number. They are enforced when they are broken.

Lastly... silly question time. Who is thexdane in game? I want to know who is killing me later.
please read all the Post again upto Brithlem's, Not 1 Post mentioned the name of the Guild that was doing the aggro Pulling, & i certainly didnt mention names until mine was mentioned. No-one even mentioned Infinity Until Brithlem made his post, although lets be honest, everyone on Windermeer knew who it was, & Obviously Brithlem knew aswell, thats why he responded, also i havent strayed off topic once, but i have responded to posts which have had my name in them.

Dont make me out to be the bad guy here, i mean, the Quote of mine you highlighted, in what way is that pointing the finger or making accusations about any Guild, i am wanting all rules enforced, & i dont mean watch one Guild, i want rules to be applied & the appropriate actions taken against ANYONE who breaks the rules.


Oh & its so nice of you to make me your first enemy in Life, you dont even know me, but i have become your enemy for speaking the truth, & if i wasnt speaking the truth, why have a few of Infinity members left lately, i'll tell you, they do not like the way the Guild uis being run, the enemies it is making, fine you want me as an enemy, thats your choice I wont even try change your mind, i wont lose any sleep over it.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:18 am
by totnkopf
Posmo, I think she was assuming that you would take the reply as an attack and differ with her enough to hunt her down.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:27 am
by omsop
Sorry i dont understand, ppl are quoting me & from what i read & others read, i am made out to be the bad guy, i have no intention nor ever have had any intention of hunting anyone down, all i want is Rules enforced.

No Camping Spots.
No Harassment.
No Pulling Aggro,

So i have no idea where the idea i would hunt anyone down came from.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:33 am
by knitcucumber
totnkopf wrote:Posmo, I think she was assuming that you would take the reply as an attack and differ with her enough to hunt her down.
Bingo. :D

And Posmo... I am not trying to make you into the bad guy. I was trying to point out this thread was indeed about more than just making sure the gms on the new server enforced the rules. It has been since the first post in this thread. My quoting you was to try to help show facts in what I was trying to say.

I don't know you and the only interaction I've had with you has been here. I assumed when I tried to bring up a differing opinion (also the fact I am Infinity), that I would now be a target. That's why I'm generally not a speaker-upper in life.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:50 am
by omsop
hehe, no worries, i am not going to dislike anyone just cause of the Guild they are in, i will only dislike them(individuals) if they give me grief in anyway or as has been mentioned so many times now, ruin other innocent ppl's fun.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:46 pm
by magick1
omsop wrote:No Camping Spots.
Hmmm, don't think I have seen any rules which mention camping in any form, either of mat sources, creatures or special characters.

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:09 pm
by omsop
magick1 wrote:Hmmm, don't think I have seen any rules which mention camping in any form, either of mat sources, creatures or special characters.
In Game, Click on the Support tool, you will see ..

" Camping/Kill Steal "
Someone is killing the monsters you attack first, or someone is repeatedly Killing the same monster, and isnt giving others the chance to do so.


I now hope you know where it says it :)

Re: rule breaking and nothing done

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:09 pm
by thexdane
raynes wrote: I don't see the word behaving in there. You are calling them jackasses. And Brit I wouldn't waste my time trying to defend your guild against these two. In game people know who you are and who your guild is. I'm also sure you will be more than welcome on the new server.

i DO believe that "being" means they are acting not a definitive you are this

like i can say to a friend "you are being an idiot" and i can say "you are an idiot"

they are two different statements and two totally different meanings to them, one i'm saying they are acting like an idiot and one i'm saying they ARE an idiot

maybe you like tetra should look up the definitions of words before you unsuccessfully try and twist around my words. http://dictionary.reference.com/ has a lot of handy definitions of words
knitcucumber wrote: The original post was about botting... which I agree is bad and should result in punishment.

It was also about "a guild" and the agro pulling they have been accused of. If it had just been about the topic of agro pulling without the bringing in specifics of "a guild" I wouldn't have even bothered posting any replies at all. It was put here to point fingers and say "hey... lookie here... hey... new GMs... watch this guild. They're eeeeevil."
actually no the original post was about neither, especially if you read the topic of the post. i didn't mention the name cause frankly it's not important to the question being asked in the original post, that you complete missed


knitcucumber wrote: Who is thexdane in game?
you won't know, frankly i don't say it cause this is a way to seperate my in game personna, that yeah a few ppl do know who i am in game, and me as a real person

tho raynes says he knows who i am and i'm sure he's got no idea who i am in game