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Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:26 am
by richaden
wak313 wrote:Davoy, not shocked at all, been in game about 3+ months BEFORE i joined DCP - and nearly everyone i talked to warned me about them.... mentioned things about what they did etc...

So I did not post a "biased" post to "protect" my precious Guildies;

Rather I just wanted Richadens (Yamcha) to be a MAN and spell out what him and alot of others are thinking.

Anyway - as per the countless number of posts about DCP on here, and including all my previous posts about such things, doesnt matter if its DCP, AOA, ROA, etc Not everyone gets along with each other, just like life, it HAPPENS!!!

BUT be VERY CAREFULL before you start branding a Guild for one or several persons actions - this kind of "Generalisation" causes everyone grief.



I now have Matis spawn, so if anyone will like to take out their Anti-DCP frustrations, please send me a /tell and I will gladly be your punching bag in the Matis Arena :P

Cheers

Gleno - DCP


Your defense of DCP is admirable, Gleno, but more than a little misplaced. No one's attacking DCP, simply poking light-hearted fun. Due to the long respawn time on Aen and friends (TM), other guilds have so far found it impossible to even see Aen due to yourselves and your allies killing Aen at least before anyone else could get to them, so now that you've acheived your bragging rights, well done by the way, it would be nice to see some other Guilds get a chance ;)

and no I don't mean my guild. Stormdancers have lots of fun anyway, we're not all super high level so don't need to think about the likes of Aen just yet. But one day, would be nice ;)

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:34 am
by mboeing
dazman76 wrote:Filling a guild with unique loots also serves to destroy the very meaning of unique loot - it's hardly desirable when you see 20 copies of it day is it?


Unique or not unique item loot is the bane of all crafter based games. I really hoped Nevrax would never go that road. But there they are now and not as unbeatable as they hoped.

IMHO they should raise the difficulty of them again, now that they have been beaten. Since they can't reprogram the AI to make them smarter (learn from previous experience) Just relocated them into a purple area and give them lvls accordingly.

Plus make the bosses stand their ground (maybe a 50m action radius) This would take care of all the easy solutions to kill them.

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:37 am
by archerke
dazman76 wrote:*chuckle* :) I don't have a big problem with what you've been doing, but I do have an objective opinion :)

Firstly, all 3 reasons given above are based on 'sophistry', which is a word I learned from reading several fantasy novels.

1) If everyone thought like that, 'other people getting it' would actually never get it, since *you* would be there hogging it all the time due to reason 1
2) I see, so now you're taking it with a view to the other person not taking it - very friendly indeed
3) 100% sophistry - AFAIK there is only one other organised group who has taken / is taking Aen's armour. Also AFAIK, they aren't camping the location using their high member count, but are simply taking the chance and arriving. This is the true intention of Aen and the other bosses.

Filling a guild with unique loots also serves to destroy the very meaning of unique loot - it's hardly desirable when you see 20 copies of it day is it?

I write this because I despise camping in all of it's forms, and in all games it appears. Camping is for the selfish and the weak. And this is aimed at the players, not the guild.


there will always some campin u just state my point :x i've been there once ... we got 60+ members and yes we need the higher lvls to kill it so obviously u'll see the same peeps there i dont care about the loot dude maybe i just wanne have some fun after 1 week of straight harvest


and there is one other group ye who nicely pulls the aggro guards on our backs :) is that friendly? nay we dont mind actually brings in more fun and we'd do it too makes the kill even more impressive. and we aint campin it tbh we just have to go look if she's there just like the others we dont have one sittin there tbh :D

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:41 am
by mboeing
archerke wrote:there will always some campin u just state my point :x i've been there once ... we got 60+ members and yes we need the higher lvls to kill it so obviously u'll see the same peeps there i dont care about the loot dude maybe i just wanne have some fun after 1 week of straight harvest


What is the fun in luring Aen away from the guards and kill her in 5 minutes? Now tell me again you are not after the loot.

If you take her square and fair. Thats fine with me and I can agree with you on the fun side , but i sincerely doubt it.

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:51 am
by archerke
do nothing but harvest one straight week u'll see my point no worries

and btw i do understand u guys it is a bit ****ty but there aint much to do about it i'm afraid. i might even advice the leaders to take a break on it, but then u'll see AOA "campin" (its not campin imo) it wich just gets the problem to another guild then u can blame them ... Whats the point?

+ if dcp is so bad why is the only things i found on the market +200 selling out of guilds ... made by a dcp member

why do i see but ql150+ swords on the market ... made by a dcp member

i never seen higher then ql120 on the market in fyros

think u just judge us for this little thing while we help the community in so many other aspects

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:51 am
by dakhound
mboeing wrote:What is the fun in luring Aen away from the guards and kill her in 5 minutes? Now tell me again you are not after the loot.

If you take her square and fair. Thats fine with me and I can agree with you on the fun side , but i sincerely doubt it.


the logic behind it is simple and I dont begrudge DCP for doing it. to take Aen fair and square you would need more then 60 people

Aen has probably 60 guards at all Red/black stars which no-one could solo alone (same as cherkin who no-one in their right mind would try to solo) so to kill her you need to get away from the guards.

unless people allied with serveral guilds to take on Aen "fair and Square" it just would not happen. If it did happen you would have the age old problem of who gets the loot and lots of *****ing about whoever did.

DCP was obviously in it for the loot (and the bragging that goes with it ;) ) so why take allies. I'm sure it was still fun to kill her without taking on the guards and I'm sure it made them happy when they collected the loot, so I say again, congrats as no-one else has managed it yet but if you want to do it fair and square now you already have the loot, count clan omnis in :)

uurggh cant believe I'm defending the guild that beat me to it :)

(and we do sell over q120 out of guild ;) just check the jewelers)

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:58 am
by archerke
who u think provide the mats to ur jeweler ;)

i was talking about light armour and melee weapons the rest i dont know off i'm afraid :)

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:01 am
by ozric
archerke wrote:why do i see but ql150+ swords on the market ... made by a dcp member


My swords go very quickly when they are at the merchants, maybe why you never see them ;)
I see this turning into another "DCP is great"..."No it isnt" thread...

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:07 am
by dakhound
ozric wrote:My swords go very quickly when they are at the merchants, maybe why you never see them ;)
I see this turning into another "DCP is great"..."No it isnt" thread...


and your very nice amps (which seem to be your degrades ;) )

Re: DCP

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:14 am
by mikelaw
dakhound wrote:Thx mike, dont want your info just wanna know I'm not looking in vain ;)

I like to sneak/explore and fid things myself so paying for information from someone as unscrupulous as yourself ;) would be a contradiction ........................pssst how much you want


LOL m8.

Aen - Burning Desert - q200 Supreme Gold Armor
Lixie - Aden Aqueous - q200 Supreme Turquoise Armor
Sergio - Verdant heights - q200 Supreme Lime Armor
Zorai (Forgotten Name) - Witherings - q200 Supreme Purple Armor

All stats on armors are amazing compared to normal homin armors in hvy.

Each armor is diffrent from 100hp/stamina per peace to 100hp/sap (Yes i know why the hell does it have sap but they do lol)

Each Boss has a diffrent method of takin them down.

I wont tell you how to kill them only that with some of them max dp is involved

You dont need 60 players to kill them.

U do need:
lvl200 Healer x2-3
lvl200 Elementalist x2-3
lvl100 Sub Healer to top up 1x

That is a perfect team for taking them down.

They are not hard you just need to work out how to kill them with ease.

Tip:
You dont have to kill the guards (Only on some bosses)

Tbh and this is my personal opinion, i rather see the bosses drop there armors one time and mabe drop a weapon or two the next.

The armor look is pritty ace imo but mabe with all 4 range them out to look a wee bit diffrent, color is great for Zorai and Fyros ones but the Tryker and Matis looks rubbish but yet again thats my personal opinion.

When you do try to kill them and if you manage to have one to urself which yes is hard but in all fairness if you cant get one bc other guilds E.G. DCP get there 1st u will...
1. Need to make a trade with other guilds
2. Get a stronger guild to kill it 1st.
Alls fair imo if u dont get there 1st you dont get the boss simple

Killing it will take team work and planning, make sure your team of hunters know how to fight together, try doing some easyier mob bosses before hand to get into team play, trust me if this isnt here you will fall and wont kill it.

This is just a simple run down, i would love to share more on tatics and simple methods of killing them without dying ;) but then were would the fun be in that.

Im not takin money from anyone to tell how to kill them, find out urselfs and may your hunt go well.

Cheers
Your friendly neighbourhood Guardian of atys