Racial Abilities, Patch 2 Discussion

[svayvti]

The Trykers were closer to the Kami, and the Fyros were closer to the Karavan.

It didn't last long in their history. When the Karavan showed up to the Trykers they quickly turned their backs on the Kami because they were reclusive and hidden. The Kami found in the Zorai a group that was closer to their ideals.. though do the Zorai follow Kami ideals or their own (and manage to be closer in the process)?

Ryzom is not supposed to be a static game, so if you really want to be closer to the Kami as a Tryker.. why not do it? it is possible to do.

[neiana]

The Trykers were closer to the Kami, and the Fyros were closer to the Karavan.

It didn't last long in their history. When the Karavan showed up to the Trykers they quickly turned their backs on the Kami because they were reclusive and hidden. The Kami found in the Zorai a group that was closer to their ideals.. though do the Zorai follow Kami ideals or their own (and manage to be closer in the process)?

Ryzom is not supposed to be a static game, so if you really want to be closer to the Kami as a Tryker.. why not do it? it is possible to do.

Actually, the Kami left the Trykers. *nod*

The Trykers embraced the Kami, after all, they were the ideal model of Tryker lifestyle! Wild... free... fun! When the Fyros miners decided to go in search of the Great Dragon (Fools I tell ya!), they struck a vein of SAP. This began the Fire of Corelieus (SP?). At this time, the Fyros were providing protection to the Tryker in exchange for a water supply... however, when the Fyros had to send massive forces to fight against the fire - the Matis made their move!

This is when a great many of the Tryker race was enslaved. Those who ran, were sought and killed! Why would the Kami stick around? It is most assuredly not that we left the Kami. After wall, Jena and her Karavan are hailed by the Matis - why would we just up and love them afte being brutally murdered and enslaved? Why would the Kami follow us Trykers into the depths of Matis territory from whence the escaped Company of Loria came? They chose not to destroy other homins, but to seek out the now less agitated life of the Zorai.

</end RP rant once again>

I know I can become closer to the Kami, I am attempting to do so.

- N

[ayne31]

And, while part of it is, infact, just not finished - most of it really is as I mentioned. It was one of the big features of the game, even on the original website roughly 3 years ago.

Then enlighten me - what player benefiting reason had Nevrax to release the game 2 months before implementing significant additions which where planned roughly 3 years ago? Why not keeping beta open 2 months more?

And to quote from "Gone with the Wind" regarding economical reasons for Nevrax's release policy: "quite frankly my dear I don't give a damn."

[mosdef]

Don't get me wrong - I'd love this too and I would have started the game with even more enthusiasm if there had been career paths like Fyros fire pike warriors or Tryker underwater ranger from the start.

Its just too late now to change the game on such a scale.

i agree 100% with you since as it stands we have now clue how gimped/buffed our characters will be after 2+ months in the game.

as for your post above, their biggest benefit for releasing the game 2 months before these patches came out is WoW and EQ2. both come out on the same day in Nov. unless dates have changed since i last looked.

[fellgrim]

I have a tale for you my friends about how MMORPG devs never learn from the experiences of their peers...

There was a game with great promise about 2 yrs ago called Asherons Call 2...

The companies that were putting this game together panicked at the thought of releasing their game co-currently with the Goliath that was Star Wars Galaxies, so they decided to rush their game out the door to beat the Goliath to retail. They released their game at Thanksgiving when the Goliath was supposed to show itself right around mid-December 2002...

The reality was, the Goliath itself was nowhere near ready to be released, as, after AC2 committed itself to a release date, the Goliath changed its release date to mid-2003. Oops.

The outcome was that AC2 released way too early, with far too many flaws, to ever be a viable MMORPG. And the Goliath went on to be a successful game regardless.

Reflect on this lesson, oh ye devs, and contemplate your own fate.

[nizbar]

Dunno...the linked pages here are from 2003. Its old information and doesn't represent the company's newest ideas on the subject of racial advantages. I've been disappointed by the devs of various games in the past, but digging up information from a year ago and getting all upset about it is premature as well.

[ayne31]

Take a look at the official patch announcement here:http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1013 (the keyword is *big hint*)

...and I see nothing wrong in saying "Don't kick my butt" before it happens

[neiana]

I have a tale for you my friends about how MMORPG devs never learn from the experiences of their peers...

There was a game with great promise about 2 yrs ago called Asherons Call 2...

The companies that were putting this game together panicked at the thought of releasing their game co-currently with the Goliath that was Star Wars Galaxies, so they decided to rush their game out the door to beat the Goliath to retail. They released their game at Thanksgiving when the Goliath was supposed to show itself right around mid-December 2002...

The reality was, the Goliath itself was nowhere near ready to be released, as, after AC2 committed itself to a release date, the Goliath changed its release date to mid-2003. Oops.

The outcome was that AC2 released way too early, with far too many flaws, to ever be a viable MMORPG. And the Goliath went on to be a successful game regardless.

Reflect on this lesson, oh ye devs, and contemplate your own fate.

*laugh* THIS game is in almost better condition than SW:G was at launch. What Goliath? Successful yes, good? Go look at the community.

Take a look at the official patch announcement here:http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1013 (the keyword is *big hint*)

...and I see nothing wrong in saying "Don't kick my butt" before it happens

What's this got to do with anything? The linked information on MMOWorlds is rather aged, the deves moved to a classless system. I don't get this statement?

- N

[ayne31]

What's this got to do with anything? The linked information on MMOWorlds is rather aged, the deves moved to a classless system. I don't get this statement?

- N

maybe you get it once you read this part from the official patch note aloud several times: "You will start to see some divergence among the races abilities. (big hint here)"

[pipfugl]

So many says its too late to implent racial abilities now.. Thats not the way I look at it, "racial ability" sounds like a positive ability not a nerf, so why not welcome it with open arms and make each race a little more unique...
All of those who says that you played beta for so and so long, remember it was just beta not the finished game, if you tried everything in beta made the perfect setup and the character you enjoyed to play, wouldnt you welcome another ability to that char. I know for one I would.
However if theres talk of some negative effect such as certain races get 10 str and -10 int and it would hurt those who had a mage in that race I wouldnt like it either, but I doubt it will be done like that.
When you read the story about the races, they all get mentioned to be children/masters of something (water, fire, earth and something else) so it wouldnt be hard to add a racial bonus, that wouldnt overpower or nerf your character, just make the race more unique.
I am looking forward to this, and I hope theres people out there who thinks of patch 2 the same way