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I though Reynes was asking who will support Kami et Kami followers. I was non expecting it would involve discussion with Matis about what dem feel can be done and what non.

When tu done talking, den ask who will join along. I suggest tu non take Matis into dat counsil.

reynjl0 wrote: Our dear king Yrkanis, though we swear utmost fealty, is tolerant where tolerance is inadvisable. Recall that the young prince was saved at the hands of a Zora Kami and aided by the Kami to overthrow King Jinovitch, whose absolute stance on the law of the Karavan no one can question. Yrkanis, may he see the light, has been subtly influenced by Kamist leanings and calls it tolerance. Gladius Jenae in no way represents genocide or the destruction of all Kami worshippers on every continent. Our goal is to restore Verdant Heights and the lands of Matis to what it should rightfully be, purging our lands and our lands only of Kamist influence.

You speak as if you are going to ignore your Kings wishes for tolerance. You speak as if somehow you were wiser than your king.

Matis lands are not Matis lands, they are the lands of Atys. The Kami are the rightful guardians of Atys, they watch over her. The lands modern day Homins call Verdant Heights belonged to the Kami long before any homin or Karavan ever stepped foot on Atys. They have been here since the start and will always be there.

Your goal is a silly one, one that can never be accomplished. You can eventually drive the Kami supporting tribes from Matis Lands, I will give you that. You can not drive the actual Kami from your lands though. They will always be there to stop your kind from abusing nature. As a reminder of that, every time one of your harvesters drives a pic into the group, they have to think about how much they have taken. If you take too much, you will upset the Kami and they will stop you. The Karavan can't help you their either as their technology has no power over them and their weapons useless.

It gives me great please to tell you that. No matter how hard you try, you will never be rid of the influence of the Kami. They are always watching you and they will always have the power to stop you.

turkka wrote:I though Reynes was asking who will support Kami et Kami followers. I was non expecting it would involve discussion with Matis about what dem feel can be done and what non.

When tu done talking, den ask who will join along. I suggest tu non take Matis into dat counsil.

If a Matis is brave enough to see the light and wants to fight against the Karavan, then they will be welcomed. I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that I am working with the Matis. My question was a simple one, when an attack is provoked on the Kami or a Kami tribe who will join in the fight to stop them.

I did say that at the moment we wont attack any Karavan camps, but you know as well as I do that the Karavan supporters won't be able to keep their promise. They are blood thristy homins, who feel they have authority over the land. It will only be a matter of time before they continue their goal of removing those who can not be removed.

raynes wrote:I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that I am working with the Matis.

I said, tu est having counsil with Matis right now. When tu done, den we can speak of things you made this call for. And for dat, we need non Matis.

Tu do understand me, or have tu been smoking too much of dat Kami weed?

You fail to acknowledge a few things in your endevour to put forth your wisdom of the Kami and your beliefs on others:

Like the Karavan, the Kamis travel freely through the lands of Atys keeping endless watch and endeavoring to make pacts with laudable homins in exchange for deeds done.

Both the Karavan and the Kami can travel freely throughout the lands, at least for now.

And although in the legend it states:

The Kamis have been placed on Atys to watch over the planet and defend it against anyone who might threaten to break its natural balance.

It does not state that the Kami were originally from Atys, only that they were placed on Atys to watch over the planet.

Also, it was not the Kami who are here for the Homins, as per the legend:

Jena sent in her disciples, the Karavan Guardians, to establish the homins in different parts of the planet so that each race would have a role in its conservation.

Jena brought forth peace and propser to the Homin kind, all of them, so that we could all work together in conservation.

Low and behold, along comes the Goo and the Kitin once again, 2 more problems to the Homin Kind, now, where as the Karavan seeks to defend the Homins and allowing them to construct weapons and armor to build defenses, the Kami use there power to scorn and punish the Homin for trying to defend themself.

The Kami have mislead many Homin to there cause, and unfortunately, even you have fallen prey to there lies and deceipt.

The Kami have allowed the Goo to further prosper and they also have allowed tribes to get a foot hold and stop the Karavan and the citizens from building defenses against the Kitin.

You tell me, why would we trust such devient creatures when all they have done is try to tear down out ability to defend ourselves, this can only lead to the end of all Homin.

If we can eradicate the Kami presence in matis lands, this will allow us to once again increase our defenses against the continued onslought of Kitin, and prepare ourselves to fight against the continued growth of the goo, that even the Kami have ignored.

The Kami are allowing the goo to transform every living thing into monsters, why would anyone want to follow a race that allows such attrosities to occur is beyond my comprension.

For the record I think Turkka is been in the bar a way bit to long and needs to be kicked out so he can sleep it off.

CP love Kami! No love for Karavan....not even a little love.

vaquero1 wrote:CP love Kami! No love for Karavan....not even a little love.

Melinoe love Karavan! No love for Kami...not even a little love.

But I do find it interesting that Pegasus Foundation and Vx3 were once touting the "Unity" banner and now seem to be on the right path to Jena. As a proud Matis I am very glad to see that Gladius Jenae seem to see things in the same light as Melinoe. I do hope they realise their recent allies have held hands with the enemy and that they should use caution.

The actions of these guilds are the actions of a proper Matis guild, we will always stand behind solid Matisian actions of this nature.

But we will also watch the guilds that act like proper Matis only when it is convenient...
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You fail to see something here on the Unity:

Pegasus Foundation and Vx3 were once touting the "Unity" banner

This is unity of all homins, as I have stated many times in my roleplaying, Pegasus Foundation is neither For Kami or For Karavan as a guild.

As a member of the guild, I am roleplaying Karavan alignement, which is a personal prefference.

I can not make claims for the guilds stance as far as a change of alignement either way.

As far as unity goes. The Unity of all homin races under Jena's protection is the most blissful form of unity.

And it is towards that goal I fight.