Ryzom

ummax wrote:i'm not interested in being called a troll or whatever for having a legitimate concern regarding the backers and their ethics

Has anyone called you a troll? As far as I have seen, you're the one calling people trolls.

ummax wrote:(also I have learned that the best thing to do with kaetemi is ignore him he is one of the rude ones that comes and trolls for no other reason other then hatred and is what most of us have seen up to this time. We have had trolls, angry pushy and aggressive people trying to ram stuff down our throat that we dont like the taste of.. It doesn't work that way hehe sorry)

Here's something for you:

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You should be clear, civilized and polite.
You may not make multiple postings about the same subject in order to gain attention.
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ummax wrote:[...] before the people that were in this thread being rude are for the most part gone thankfully and I hope they stay gone. (etc.)

Please be as kind to show me where I have been rude.

keithlan wrote:Please be as kind to show me where I have been rude.

go to the other thread please i hardly talk in this thread about it
the girl has gone and as you guys know there was another set of people who have suddenly disappeared after being here promoting this for weeks in the "xavier's at it thread" who have suddenly gone poof after running around being rude and agressive and trying to force it down our throats

again read my posts and you will understand as I have said "the present group" of posters for the most part have been quite pleasant. I have asked them to stay but if you want to fight go for it but i wont be responding or nitpicking on the issue of how this was dealt with at the beginning because its all over the boards

also reread what i said THEY ARE GONE and your here hence i never said you were rude... the rude ones for the most part have left (why do i have to keep repeating this no one is reading what i said and trying to start a war? why? )

thanks

avaeran wrote:As a new person to both the Ryzom.org forums and these ones, I can tell you very swiftly which has seemed more reasonable, approachable, and welcoming to me.

The post you are referencing in the other forum ends with a personal insult that appears based more on rumour and innuendo than fact. "Sure the plan you have sounds great, but you lack integrity." Even so, it was answered with patience and although dismissed by some as an attempt to troll, it conveys no venom as far as I can see. .

YOu see the negative should have been ignored but was not in fact the posters in the thread said that everyone should ignore the guy as he is just a troll. No and quite honestly from what I read it was not comletely answered some round about explanation was given that said nothing really


Anyhow I'm tired of this issue anyhow I pointed out that someone went and was accused of trolling when they asked about someones background you called him a troll OPENLY and never actualy answered the question nor to this day are dealing with any issue which is uncomfortable to you which is fine, but many are leary and distrusting of how things go as a result of it anyhow this also has been said over and over and over and over ad nauseum if you dont want to read the threads its fine, but i'm not rehashing what has been said repeatedly in 20 different ways for several weeks.

Anyhow I will repeat what has been pointed out already

a) the bulk of the player base does not care for several reasons
b) this board for the moment isa part of ryzom.com and the fact that ryzom.org threads are left open (as has been stated by forum moderators) was out of courtesy and so that people can discuss the issue its not a right
c) many of us are tired of hearing it plus we seem to go over the same issues again and again and get knowhere because no one wants to answer or because we are unwelcoming or trolls or whatever

Anyhow its up to you how you perceive it but there is information out there which is readily obtainable about one of the main "leaders" of the projects. Anyhow as i have seen here the people aer quite aggressive and quite honestly i am afraid to post or even go near the ryzom.org forums because I know I am not asking rudely but I have been accused of "attacking" "being rude" trolling etc on these boards when in fact I am not by people of Ryzom.org. I have been mercielessly trolled by them in some cases just for asking a question. I have watched them stick their tongues out in defiance on other boards and at other people and it was completely unsolicited as in they were not responding to anyone just being rude and childish period and do other crazy things. So would I go onto a message board and talk to these people and expect different? the answer is quite frankly NO. The fact that you haven't seen it or been a part of that is good for you as they are starting to put on a different face AS I have commented BUT that part is being buried when I complimented someone on his politelness and friendliness people are ignoring that part now aren't they AND dwelling on the negative in an effort to make an ISSUE OF A NON ISSUE

again go for it your defending nothing I asked him to stay I found him to be a personable person and a good representative of ryzom.org and have said as much and your reaction is as usual to defend something the opposite of what I have siad (so yea we are a realy unwelcoming bunch a member of the "non ryzom.org" community says to a guy working on the project "hey I like you , your polite and reasonable please stay" and what is happening to my post? people are making an argument of it YET AGAIN)

GO FOR IT your again proving the us and them thing and the aggressive thing after I paid a person a compliment

Why would I go to a board with a group of people who when I compliment them defend something that is opposite and take only the bad out of the post and throw away the good?

kaetemi wrote:Has anyone called you a troll? As far as I have seen, you're the one calling people trolls.Here's something for you:

kaetemi if you think I am so offensive why dont you just report me and be done with it instead of doing this you just dwell on a non issue as usual press the report button and be done with it as I am tired of the way you dont say anything to me and just seem to like to one line me and start arguments in fact you seem to jump in whenever there is a fight to be had just to fight.

so the report button is that ! in the bottom left hand corner press it and report it and be done with it but there is a reason I ignore you and others including your own group have told people to ignore you. You seem to come to these boards when you want to fight or are borred and just do the one liner thing without actualy saying anything.

get it over with and press report if you want to quote forum rules but honestly since you have never actualy entered into an actual conversation with me just keep doing this wierd stuff I guess that is all I will ever get from you.

Let me know when you have something to say and now I will go back to ignoring you

Just thought I would give you that helpful information about reporting posts since I am such an evil person

ummax wrote:kaetemi if you think I am so offensive why dont you just report me and be done with it instead of doing this you just dwell on a non issue

You see, I answer when you ask me something.

ummax wrote:You seem to come to these boards when you want to fight or are borred and just do the one liner thing without actualy saying anything.

It's amazing how other people can say as much with 100 lines.

Seriously, if you're so tired about this subject, then why do you even make 3 posts after each other here? In fact, more than half of your posts on these forums are about the project...

Now please wait a bit, while I go search for some unanswered questions in your post, and add the replies to this post.

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there was another set of people who have suddenly disappeared after being here promoting this for weeks in the "xavier's at it thread" who have suddenly gone poof

At some point, some of us just stopped replying to those people who stubbornly misunderstood everything we said.

why do i have to keep repeating this no one is reading what i said and trying to start a war? why?

Repeating stuff only makes it worse, also, you might have to use some ',' in your sentences, as half of them make no logical sense.

a) the bulk of the player base does not care for several reasons

Well then, if they don't care, what about them?

b) this board for the moment isa part of ryzom.com and the fact that ryzom.org threads are left open (as has been stated by forum moderators) was out of courtesy and so that people can discuss the issue its not a right

Yes, that's kind of normal, we can discuss mostly about anything here.

c) many of us are tired of hearing it plus we seem to go over the same issues again and again and get knowhere because no one wants to answer or because we are unwelcoming or trolls or whatever

First of all, can you stop generalizing with "many of us"? As you might not know, I, and many others, are part of the community too, and "we" don't all agree with you. Anyway, which issues did you want to talk about?

Why would I go to a board with a group of people who when I compliment them defend something that is opposite and take only the bad out of the post and throw away the good?

Because that which has already been solved requires no discussion.

Man can someone Close this Thread here,it goes slowly boring and silly

By the way I have to reassure our dear victim, ummax that is, we are still here. For we were here before him and this debate is not our main center of interest:
Ryzom is.
Statistics tends to say that his main focus is this debate. Strange.

The truth have been said multiple time, repeating it or saying it louder won't make it more true.

He doesn't seem to simply understand.
So, yes, we (me and a couple of others) may be ignoring him. Which is not ignoring people who disagree with a good reason, for there are, and who able to understand which does not necessary implies to agree.

Sorry if it feeds the troll, it is not my intention.
As always the motivation is explanation.

Now we all know the matter is far beyond our reach for it only lies in the hands of justice.

Let's hope together that this is no dusk for Ryzom but a bright dawn.

edit:

so as to answer the post below without "feeding": since you used our disappearance as an argument against us you deserved an explanation. Please don't cry now that you got it, thanks

as you can see the abusive and agressive ones know who they are......

ummax wrote:as you can see the abusive and agressive ones know who they are......

Well, there's no way of helping you if you keep talking like that.