desdi wrote:What I can't really understand is the flame on the projet:
you may well disapprove there are good reasons and the actual presentation might be one it but I don't see why hating it so much.
Flame? Hate? not really. At least not from me. Suspicious? yes. Inquisitive? that too.. wary? yup. Specially when they ask for money.
That, considering we don't even know the other propositions ( stop dreaming about big compagnies ... who are the dreamer here? )
That's true. But it can also be strategical and competitive choices. Even the ORG project decided not to disclose some data not to favor other possible buyers.
It's quite an unstable position to compare something with clear objectives, a futur for ryzom and ... well nothing. At least an honest intellectual position wouldn't dare the nothing.
nothing *known*. But this does not mean the "known" is good, or well-thought.
Sure the budget as to be rewritten since the first dream-like plan.
I looked at the budget. I won't comment on that -- one full paid developer to open the code? --
Wrong two weeks are not enough, we tried our best and some people didn't even slept:
The idea of opening Ryzom had been planned for months, being the "desmise of Ryzom" for granted, just a matter of time (this assertion, coming from someone who states that he has a NDA that prevents him from commenting on his laid-off, is a bit tight, imho, but just a minor thing)
here we are with the current 3 partner plan.
So much for the community project then!. The *community* has already decided who the partners would be. Who the hosting company would be. How they would operate!. I find that... "ironic" -- with a bit of misuse of the word to please some friends
-- as in "we, the community, have decided that in our best interest, Mr. Lejade and Mr. Lacambre will be our partners". Yes, it was tight in time and it was presented as a vote "Agree, not agree".
Us the player, we are also the player community of ryzom even if it doesn't pleases you. Acting as a major role
The community behind the non-profit organization has 1/3rd of the voices.
Olivier Lejade, who hasn't show anything impressive the past years but departed before the dream of Ryzom became what we know today: an beautifull place of broken promises
The fact that he departed gives him a lot of credibility.
-Valentin Lacambre, network and server specialist ( why continue with jolt a side compagnie as we can have a central one with us? ) and a well known figure of open software.
I did not get that, sorry. Central one? server specialist? why continue with Jolt? and why not? was Jolt asked to become the hosting server? Was Adviseo selected as a hosting service in the best interest of the community, the french location carefully selected, or just put as illustrative purposes?
A perfectly fine example of perfectly community-driven project, at least in apparence. I guess a 2000Eur pledging player would have had something to say there? nopes. The only choice is "we have evaluated this and we have decided that our only hope is to team up with these two investors. If you want, you can withdraw your pledge".
, I dont live in a fairytale world