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[rheda]

Should your answers be 100% accurate, and if , as your previous post states, the 3 partner SAS is *in spirit, although not legally* a non-profit organization, then I admit that the two partners giving away 150k Euros (guesstimate) and renouncing to any compensation or profit is altruistic, and I respect that. Other aspects aside, in spirit as in intended, the project has a noble goal: releasing the code in GPL and offer an professional-grade non profit service, but the way it developed left room for lots of questions

Yours,

As I said, I quotes Xavier on that... can't be sure he did meant the individual investors would put the same ammount of money as the pledged money on our side, but that's something we all won't know until it's the time, since it would be like telling SOE how much to pay to get rid of us (and if it were the case, they would for sure pay much much more than that.

About why it was necessary to make the SAS... it's mostly to have a solid legal formation when facint the liquidation process, since, for example, we wouldn't be able to keep Jolt's service not being a company (or having one that would on our name). There are other minor issues like the previous one, just to end up requiring those steps were made in order to have chances to "enter" the process

[borg9]

actually, anyone can use GPL software for commercial product. only requirement is that source code is made available and no other restriction on distributing that program (you can put its binaries/source to public server for all to download)

NeL has dual licence or Nevrax would be in violation of GPL themselves for not giving out Ryzom client source.

... so the 'not for profit' commercal arm of Ryzom.org will invest its income in programmers who will give their work to the community and therefore potential rivals to avoid the 150,000 commercal licence fee.

Thus Players of 'ryzom.org' version of Ryzom, will be paying the salaries of MMO GPL software developers.

That sounds fair enough.

[rheda]

... so the 'not for profit' commercal arm of Ryzom.org will invest its income in programmers who will give their work to the community and therefore potential rivals to avoid the 150,000 commercal licence fee.

Thus Players of 'ryzom.org' version of Ryzom, will be paying the salaries of MMO GPL software developers.

That sounds fair enough.

Yep, as you said, that's the idea... GPL does open for any volunteers to submit their modifications, which if considered good, may be applied, but also if there's the chance, hiring full time developers is a chance not to be missed

As it's been said, though, the first priority is to achieve a high grade of sustainability, so the servers unkeep can be paid.. and since noone's going to receive any surplus money, given the situation there is, then it would be spent on trying to improve the game

btw, in another hand, any commercial use of the source code would mean that company should make any mods on the client available as source code, since that's the conditions the GPL establishes on distribution, but could keep any server mods private, so any comercial use of ryzom would at some degree result on a better game for all.
and a company could set up a paid service with complete different content, allowing for a completely different world, races, etc. in which you could play paying it's own fee, of course not being tied to the original ryzom.org

[borg9]

Yep, as you said, that's the idea... GPL does open for any volunteers to submit their modifications, which if considered good, may be applied, but also if there's the chance, hiring full time developers is a chance not to be missed

As it's been said, though, the first priority is to achieve a high grade of sustainability, so the servers unkeep can be paid.. and since noone's going to receive any surplus money, given the situation there is, then it would be spent on trying to improve the game

btw, in another hand, any commercial use of the source code would mean that company should make any mods on the client available as source code, since that's the conditions the GPL establishes on distribution, but could keep any server mods private, so any comercial use of ryzom would at some degree result on a better game for all.
and a company could set up a paid service with complete different content, allowing for a completely different world, races, etc. in which you could play paying it's own fee, of course not being tied to the original ryzom.org

Isn't there a loop hole in the GPL that states you don't have to make public your mods if they are only shared between developers on the project?