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philu wrote:Actually I think you'll find the Kami are being blamed for this second declaration.

lol There's a difference between blaming someone for doing something, even when they're not doing it (ie what kye was doing) and pointing out that its that person's fault in the first place (ie what Posmo was doing)

And I still <3 your arguing methods

dbritt wrote: but SECOND was by KAMI trying to cause trouble and throw a wrench in things...if they would have left it alone, it would have already been done, and you could declare to your little hearts content. But instead, we had to waste...and yes I waid waste, 2 more days of our time doing this, KNOWING we will be attacked soon after (on past events(not yours Kye)I'd bet on Memorial Day(amost as bad as PF being attacked on NYD))

Ha ha that's funny, the Kami joined in an OP battle? Isn't that what the pro-PvP players claim they're for??!!

And you seem to forget that the majority of players are European, those aren't European holidays. Ever occur to you maybe they didn't know? Personally I have absolutely no idea when either of those days are.

sprite wrote:And I still <3 your arguing methods

Aww bless.

I just came up with a great idea .... Stop blaiming the "Kami" as a whole or the "Kara" as a whole for what a few people do.

I still luv ya all even tho you keep arguing about this (and yeah im home/bored/depressed/hungry/thirsty/tired and can't sleep so im looking at the forums alot =P

[edit]Working on the hunger and thirst thing now .

grimjim wrote:1. So you say. I don't much care and don't see a particular problem if you were, other than it's a bit hypocritical after before.

Implying that I'm a liar ("So you say?") and then calling me a hypocrite? nice. Please pull something I said that's hypocritical on this issue. In fact, please explain how it's any of your business how we transfer our outpost around? I didn't say word one when you transferred yours and I certainly didn't support the rogue individual that declared on it while you did.

2. Actually, it did cost before. IIRC around 5 million or so, possibly more, they put it up with a later patch.

I was under the impression you got your dappers back when you cancelled the battle. I stand corrected.

Oh, and the other difference was that we were using it as a way to avoid PvP in order to access the content without being forced, partially as a protest move.

And that is the main reason you got beat up on the forums over it. We're not avoiding anything. If you can instruct me as to where the "transfer ownership" button is, I'll be glad to use it next time. But for now, this is the only way we know how to do it.

raven41 wrote:Stop blaiming the "Kami" as a whole or the "Kara" as a whole for what a few people do.

In my humble opinion there is no "Kara" as a whole, and there won't be a "Kara" whole in the near future.

For the Balance!

Trini Mac'Wiley

oldmess wrote:Implying that I'm a liar ("So you say?")

Some seem to think otherwise. You managed to read both ends of that sentence apparently without reading the middle bit 'I don't care'.

oldmess wrote:and then calling me a hypocrite?

The criticism was hypocritical then, it's hypocritical now. 'Anything you can get away with is allowed!' was the cry until it was something they didn't agree with and doing this now after whining about it before is hypocritical.

oldmess wrote:In fact, please explain how it's any of your business how we transfer our outpost around? I didn't say word one when you transferred yours and I certainly didn't support the rogue individual that declared on it while you did.

<Turkish>Sensitive boy ain'tcha Tommy?</Turkish>

Your post merely discussed the issue in an easily reply-toable form.

oldmess wrote:And that is the main reason you got beat up on the forums over it. We're not avoiding anything. If you can instruct me as to where the "transfer ownership" button is, I'll be glad to use it next time. But for now, this is the only way we know how to do it.

To reiterate.
1. I don't actually care and don't necessarily see anything wrong with it if you were blocking.
2. Except that if you were it'd be hypocritical.
3. And some of the people getting ruffled feathers and defending whatever it is they are doing are the ones that gave us gyp.
4. Some people seem to think that you are blocking.
5. But again, I couldn't really give a tinker's cuss.

oldmess wrote:If you can instruct me as to where the "transfer ownership" button is, I'll be glad to use it next time. But for now, this is the only way we know how to do it.

Which is exactly the point isn't it?

If OPs had been less of a(nother) half baked implementation, we would have had the diplomatic options originally promised and there would be a way to transfer ownership without fighting.

However, there isn't that option so you have to fight and accept that others might try to become involved. To quote a well used phrase "That's the way it is, get over it!"

philu wrote:However, there isn't that option so you have to fight and accept that others might try to become involved. To quote a well used phrase "That's the way it is, get over it!"

hehe - Well I for one know and accept that on this issue, funny huh?
Whats dumb! & cracks me up is the people who complain about the Void OPs always being under attack/busy are the same ones who keep interfering with our transfers, at least twice so far that I know of. (*points at KoO*)
I'm not sure what they expected, the longer they stop us from doing it and just getting it overwith the longer they're going to be busy. *smacks head on table* XD

ajsuk wrote: Whats dumb! & cracks me up is the people who complain about the Void OPs always being under attack/busy are the same ones who keep interfering with our transfers, at least twice so far that I know of.

I still wonder how anyone unwanted can interfere in the OP exchange. Wasn't it so that guild leader and high officers of the involved guilds can exclude homins from 'helping' their side? I'm not 100% sure about this, because I never was in the situation to try it.