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Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:26 am
by carrie
19891989 wrote:If for you Sek neutral is come in YRK Tagged Kami and kill karavan this game have a problem whit neutral people.
Well, Padawan (or I assume that's who you are since it is the last name you used to attempt to speak with me in Klients), perhaps you missed my saying I considered myself neutral (not Karavan) PRIOR to joining the Kami faction. There was never a possibility for me to come into town tagged Kami when I was neutral as I was actually Karavan for tp ticket purposes.

But your comments are off topic and have nothing to do with my questioning someone else's decision to speak for me when they don't know me.

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:30 am
by 19891989
carrie wrote:Well, Padawan (or I assume that's who you are since it is the last name you used to attempt to speak with me in Klients), perhaps you missed my saying I was neutral (not Karavan) PRIOR to joining the Kami faction. There was never a possibility for me to come into town tagged Kami when I was neutral.

But your comments are off topic and have nothing to do with my questioning someone else's decision to speak for me when they don't know me.

Padawan cant use anymore my account Sek, and im sure you know why.
When you talk you say (WE) so i know Lath or your Guild come in YRK whit kami kill karavan.

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:39 am
by carrie
19891989 wrote:Padawan cant use anymore my account Sek, and im sure you know why.
When you talk you say (WE) so i know Lath or your Guild come in YRK whit kami kill karavan.
The fact remains the same, Lath could not tag up as a Kami when he was neutral (Karavan). Game mechanics simply don't allow it. He could only tag himself Kami once we made the decision to be Kamists and got our fame high enough. Furthermore, game mechanics prevent him from PvPing in town without a faction tag on...which during the time we were neutral would have been a Karavan tag.

If you want to argue that he healed someone who was killing Karavan, I suggest you try this experiment: have someone tag themselves Karavan and you keep your tag off, let them kill a tagged-Kami. Once the tagged-Karavan has hit the Kamist you try to heal/rez the tagged-Karavan (still keeping your tag off). See how it works. ;-)

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:17 am
by 19891989
carrie wrote:The fact remains the same, Lath could not tag up as a Kami when he was neutral (Karavan). Game mechanics simply don't allow it. He could only tag himself Kami once we made the decision to be Kamists and got our fame high enough. Furthermore, game mechanics prevent him from PvPing in town without a faction tag on...which during the time we were neutral would have been a Karavan tag. If you want to argue, that he healed someone who was killing Karavan, I suggest you try this experiment: have someone tag themselves Karavan and you keep your tag off, let them kill a tagged-Kami. Once the tagged-Karavan has hit the Kamist you try to heal/rez the tagged-Karavan (still keeping your tag off). See how it works. ;-)
(Which we didn't prior to chosing Kami. We were neutral/agnostic prior to that with the ability to purchase tp tickets via the Karavan teleporter...never followers of Jena).


Ascension is supposed to be a neutral guild (you are listed as neutral), but I know Ascension come into YRK as tagged Kami to kill Karavan. I don't call this neutral. So you are neutral and kami when you want? (kami/neutral)

Best example of a neutral guild is the Samsara. As far I know, I have never heard or see one of them tagged as Kami or Karavan and attack the opposing faction. Yes, they fight more against KA than Kami because they are hired to help on the Kami side.

my question is: Ascension are Neutral or Kami ?

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:30 am
by carrie
19891989 wrote:Ascension is supposed to be a neutral guild (you are listed as neutral), but I know Ascension come into YRK as tagged Kami to kill Karavan. I don't call this neutral. So you are neutral and kami when you want? (kami/neutral)

Best example of a neutral guild is the Samsara. As far I know, I have never heard or see one of them tagged as Kami or Karavan and attack the opposing faction. Yes, they fight more against KA than Kami because they are hired to help on the Kami side.

my question is: Ascension are Neutral or Kami ?
Ascension is Kami faction/Race neutral. Out of Cavern was considered Neutral both faction and race.

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:33 am
by 19891989
carrie wrote:Ascension is Kami faction/Race Neutral. Out of Cavern was considered Neutral both faction and race.

thank You Sekhmet

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:54 am
by carrie
19891989 wrote:thank You Sekhmet
My pleasure. :)

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:37 am
by grimjim
jam2005 wrote:One more personal opinion from me on the 'game belongs to us' bit is just something I'm sure you've already heard expressed - it doesn't. The game belongs to Nevrax. We are paying for the opportunity to play with their toys, but I don't believe that gives us the authority to dictate their game design, just a bit of room to express our opinions. ;)
Once a game like this is out the door it isn't yours any more. Unless you've managed gamer communities of one type or another for a good few years (and even then) their desires and reactions are unpredictable.

Once it's out the door it isn't yours any more and to keep an audience satisfied in an interactive medium means you don't just plough on with what you were doing regardless, you have to respond and shift. Otherwise we might as well be reading a novel.

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:43 am
by xeraphim
Holy Crap!!
I only attacked an OP guys!!!

everyone is entitled to play the game their own way and make their own decisions.. end of story.
Unless they personally hurt you just accept them..

Man 14 pages...???

Guys just chill and hug each other and go enjoy the game...
It's me birthday today so i dont expect I'll be on till saturday.

Big peace love and all that stuff.

Xera out.

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:59 am
by darthg
Happy b'day then u silly tart :P

So when are u taking me for a treat haha