Multiple Attack

[kostika]

* No CoM members (afaik) took part in the initial attack on LVS (ie raising it to threshold)

I don't know about any other CoM, but I know Padawan was there at some point during the attack.

Yesterday was a big mess I wish I could just forget.

[sprite]

* No CoM members (afaik) took part in the initial attack on LVS (ie raising it to threshold)

I don't know about any other CoM, but I know Padawan was there at some point during the attack.

From what I saw, he was only there standing at the War Banner after the end of the Attack phase. He may have been there after threshold had been reached in the defence round as well, but I don't believe he was. The fact that it was a partially spontaneous suggestion is the point I was trying to make (possibly badly; 4hrs of "sleep" may not be enough if I only get one coffee when I wake up ).

[sluggo0]

I agree 100% with boinged. If a Guild Leader or High Officer does not click 'ATTACK' at the outpost they declared on, within 5 or 10 minutes of the attack time, the attack should immediately be cancelled, since it's such a disruptive practice, it's possible that it is in order to fine the falsely declaring guild 5x the amount of dappers to declare.

BTW, Neveraxx should have the tools to track to the account holder who is declaring on whom, so forming a pretend guild only fools the players. 'Punishment' is still leviable on the 'real' guild or 'real' toon.

Guilds that are formed should not be able to declare for some minimum time, at least a month seems appropriate.

Counter to that, the attack should be cancellable somehow. Even if it's a ticket through support to cancel, and they log and monitor, gulids that frequently abuse the cancelling should lose their ability to declare for a period. This allows us to have real lives. Honestly tho, you should have NO good reason to not be able to have one of the above present if you declare an attack and discuss it in advance.

Falsely declaring on a guild costs everyone time.

Padawan was no more correct to falsely declare than anyone else before him. 2 wrongs make a lot of people unhappy .

And Sprite, I saw padawan there, with a house on his head, so there most certainly was at least one member of CoM at Lost Valley. That statement was not true .

[jam2005]

* No CoM members (afaik) took part in the initial attack on LVS (ie raising it to threshold)

False - I know I fought alongside a small handful of CoM.

The fact that it was a partially spontaneous suggestion is the point I was trying to make

Very True - AFAIK it only went down as a result of Vent conversations and tells of irritation over the other OP battles, and a good number of people on the 'attack' side likely didn't even know what was going down unless they had a fellow guildy who was good at sorting the mess in Vent and relaying info.


I will say that I like the idea mentioned about not allowing a guild to declare more than once per day (or should that perhaps even be once every 3 days due to the way the attacks and defense must be scheduled?). I also agree with not allowing a new guild to make declarations until they've reached a certain age, or perhaps age and number of members (5ish at least?) BUT I'm sure that the people low enough to use the fake guild tactic wouldn't be deterred much as they'd just have to plan ahead a little more.

[raven41]

only one prob with the"ATTACK" button idea ..Guess you could say more of an annoyance ...The attacker would have to come in non PvPd otherwise would never reach the sign...

But other then the little bit of annoyance its a great idea I think

[edit] HEY !!! WOOHOOO my 100th post :O

[vguerin]

Imo u shouldnt be able to attack an OP if the attacker didnt join at attackphase. And isnt it goin behind ur friends back if they told not to attack?
Otherwise those attackers are false, and the worst of homins ever lived on Atys.

[OOC] Agreed... but you have to play the hand your dealt man. After having to move around following the attackers for 3 hours we had to do something entertaining. DT called it retaliation, but it was more frustration at having our time wasted and then going for known aggressors. We added 2 hours sitting for a counter attack that never came as well.[/OOC]

[sx4rlet]

[OOC] After having to move around following the attackers for 3 hours we had to do something entertaining. DT called it retaliation, but it was more frustration at having our time wasted and then going for known aggressors. We added 2 hours sitting for a counter attack that never came as well.[/OOC]

Sounds like we all were waiting at outposts for attacks that never came... Did somebody level his patience? I almost did!

[philu]

[OOC]Obviously you don't play with me or know me... I love this game and I am no warmonger. DT is DT and he carries the flag of Jena and intends to wave it high. I prefer sort of a balance and it reflects by my personal efforts in adding to the peace/balance we had. Too many people making noise and causing a fuss over playing the game as intended. You all played perfectly into DT hands and I have every intention to play him to the hilt.[/OOC]

That's what I object to most, you talk of DT as another person. Don't hide behind your toon, have the courage to stand behind your words and actions and not blame them on your toon being a fanantic. There's no IC/OOC/RP excuse, in the end it's all just you.

[cygnus]

That's what I object to most, you talk of DT as another person. Don't hide behind your toon, have the courage to stand behind your words and actions and not blame them on your toon being a fanantic. There's no IC/OOC/RP excuse, in the end it's all just you.

oooh hammer hits nail on head, one of the best posts I've seen in a long time

/bow

[cloudy97]

That's what I object to most, you talk of DT as another person. Don't hide behind your toon, have the courage to stand behind your words and actions and not blame them on your toon being a fanantic. There's no IC/OOC/RP excuse, in the end it's all just you.

OOC
Well I enjoy someone roleplaying the bad guy actually. I think Vguerin does a good job with the portrait of a Jinovitch-type of Matis. Problem is, the game mechanics for OP wars are not perfect and the community is used to cooperative gameplay rather than being competative.

As long as we don't try to hurt the person behind the toon I have no problems with warmongers or neutrals. Pero and Snake, this is mmoRPg - most of us choose to play the role of a fantasy character.