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Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:24 pm
by andypur1
sx4rlet wrote:True, but if you let the failed game run until, or even after you launch your fresh start, you even get some cash in while developping your new start.

(unless your figures say that keeping it going is more expensive then killing it when you get it...)
Hmm, I was under the impression (from back when the finanical problems were first announced). That the game was now making a day-to-day profit. In other words, the income from player subscriptions was sufficient to pay the staff/devs/upkeep of the servers / their yubo power sources etc.

However there was not enough funds to service the interest/repayments on the debt that Nevrax had taken out to develop the game. If this is the case, it would be a bit silly to cut-off a profitable game, whilst developing a replacement :p
(Someone posted earlier in the thread about Eurotunnel, they are in exactly the same position, the company has billions of pounds of debts, but only make a small 'working' profit, which is not enough to keep up with the repayments).

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that the whole team will be re-employed (Devs/GMs/CSRs etc) by the new owners.

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:27 pm
by dakhound
rundll32 wrote:Heh Jacko, you cant make seeminly innocent polls so you can later misquote them to support your argument :D
I didnt make the poll if I'd have done it it would have asked "is ryzom.org a retarded idea"

;)

anyways off to sunny germany, have a nice jackoba free week, keep up those attacks kami's I wanna have something to take off you when I get back

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:33 pm
by sx4rlet
andypur1 wrote:Hmm, I was under the impression (from back when the finanical problems were first announced). That the game was now making a day-to-day profit. In other words, the income from player subscriptions was sufficient to pay the staff/devs/upkeep of the servers / their yubo power sources etc.
I thought so too, Zok.

But if a company buys it, they will do their own calculations, and have their own plans. They -might- kill the existing game and get a fresh start, like Rundll said, although I doubt it.

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:28 pm
by mithur
Mithur wrote:Democracy is cool, but only if the people thinks in your way.

Otherwise, is a non-representative and manipulated data. We still are "few" even if we are the main part.
Two post after:
thlau wrote:There was no poll that asked if it were a good idea, as far as I know. The only [thread=27621]poll[/thread] I know about asked if this was the best idea.

For you it may be that 'good' is the same as 'best'. For me it isn't.
So this poll might be far from representative

I just think it was funny :)

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:03 pm
by ummax
sx4rlet wrote:I thought so too, Zok.

But if a company buys it, they will do their own calculations, and have their own plans. They -might- kill the existing game and get a fresh start, like Rundll said, although I doubt it.
hehe depends why they are buying it :)

since this is a liquidator maybe they got enough non virtual stuff to make it worth enough money for that (doubt that too, but its a possibility)

Anyhow gah I can't look honestly I can't :(

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:11 pm
by ummax
meitemax wrote:If you could only answer ONE question. If Nevrax hears from the "liquidator" (have no clue what that is) and what they hear is the good stuff, how long until we that are stuck on Silan can set foot on ML? Would that be before or after the end of 2006? ( Just wondering if I should set aside money for that case. )
ah there you are
want off the island? go to sor.warcy

here is the info posted in this forum (you can be free ^^)

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27876

(although you wont be trapped for much longer we can hope)

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:51 pm
by gretchen
Ryzom is being merged with the Eurotunnel? :p

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:16 pm
by mithur
gretchen wrote:Ryzom is being merged with the Eurotunnel? :p
Some people needed to find a easier way to PR :p :D

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:36 pm
by flume641
mithur wrote:Some people needed to find a easier way to PR :p :D
:D :D :D hehehehee

Re: Ryzon buyout news

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:58 am
by tryzovia
Don't forget something when you say that if a company buy ryzom (Gameforge for exemple) they can't keep all the devs. Why? Because Ryzom can"t afford it. When you did pay the servers, you don't have so much money left, and surely not enought to continue with the same team than today. There is a reason why Nevrax is diying today.

But yes they could keep more devs than ryzom.org.

Why they should buy ryzom? I think it's for expending their business in the mmorpg. so ryzom would continue. But the question I'm asking is for who will they develop the game? Ryzom community or their own playerbase? I think we should think about that.
The problem with the .org challenger is that we don't know anything about him. It's said to be GameForge, but even if this is true, what do they wan't to do with the game?
Don't make the mistake to think that a company wan't to buy ryzom for ryzom good, it wants to buy it for it's own good. And
And we won't have an answer before it's too late : the decision will be taken before.

And until we don't know who's this mysterious company, and what they plan to do, there can't be a democratic decision about who is the best. If you want democracy, you have to have all the information you need to make your choice.
The ryzom.org project works democraticly, but yes, won't make all ryzom players vote to know if they wan't the .org project or not.

I hope all those mysteries will be solve soon, and that we will have the answers to ours questions.

P.S. just for avoiding a misunderstanding, I was a part of the ryzom community from october 2004 to early 2006 on the Luinil acount. I just use this acount because I can't reactivate my older one, but I'm still looking at ryzom since I stop playing.

Luinil