Ryzom

mugendo wrote:...comparisons are inevitable as there are a lot of nervous ex galaxy players here

o/

I get quite nervous when I hear "SOE", they ruined my favourite game and when we complained they basically said "tough, sod off". It may sound sad, but I was really quite upset the day I fired up the CU. My hopes of a more fun creature handler, a reworking of Smuggler, no...Just a big mess.

If this happens here, whether it's SOE or Xavier's lot, or anyone else, I'm going to go crazy.

To the buyer: DON'T RUIN OUR BLOODY GAME!!!!!

*walks off in a huff, mumbling*

Hey,
I m quite undecided on this matter. As I said in another thread I couldn't care less to keep on paying to play (else I would have quit playing a while back )
but as long as we don't know anything about the other company willing to take over the game and their views on Ryzom's evolution, I definitely can't take side...

I voted no because as it has been explained before the client side of the game is a resource hog! So just imagine what the server side must be like and I don't think anyone of us has as high end server just laying around. I feel that there needs to be a buisness behind this game to advertise it, maintain servers, to develope the story line, continue on with customer service, fix bugs and known issues, add content, and to add more stanzas. I just don't see any of this happening in the free community side IMHO. As said by the OP I want to play Ryzom as it is now not someone elses vision of it. I also agree with the other points made by the OP about cheats and the like.

tigrus wrote:Mugendo.
SWG failed for ONE REASON and ONE reason only.

Raph Koster left it.

Raph was the only dev smart enough to work the code, since he wrote it.
/hi5 Raph The best dev ever
The rest of the **** couldnt figure it out, so they had to trash it. Thereby screwing up the game.

That, and also Lucas Arts is a bunch of money-hording tw*ts, who can't realize that rushing a game's production never works, and that the customer's paying for the game aren't a bunch of morons who will pay for a WoW-clone just because it has a Star Wars logo slapped on it....*fumes*

vguerin wrote:I find it hard to feel respect for someone stealing a mailing list from their old job and using it for personal gain... I do feel disdain, mistrust and pity for them though.

I agree with this. Ryzom.org has made no attempt to clear this up at all...silence has been their only defense, so in the absense of any defense on the topic, what did you guys think everyone was gonna assume? I may have very well missed a response to everyones allegations of "theft", but if there was one i surely didnt see it. If it was a mistake, or simple incompetance then thats understandable, but when there is lack of any defense to the contrary its natural to assume that the allegations are correct. I for one know that if it was myself or my company, i would have addressed these rumors when they first popped up months ago.

I for one dont know what happened here, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its pretty irrational to start complaining and threatening "suing" when people start wondering, if in fact, your a duck.

The fact that ryzom.org would even talk about suing forum members or nevrax for what is said on their forums is laughable to me. You're trying to pick fights with the same people that you are also asking for handouts from, who will hopefully become future customers of yours. This alone shows lack of credibility and experience as far is I am concerned. If you feel you've been wronged here, then feel free to prove the naysayers wrong, but threats wont help you guys win over this communtity at all.

slay13 wrote:I agree with this. Ryzom.org has made no attempt to clear this up at all...silence has been their only defense, so in the absense of any defense on the topic, what did you guys think everyone was gonna assume? I may have very well missed a response to everyones allegations of "theft", but if there was one i surely didnt see it.

In one of the posts in one of the pages of the threads they admitted to making a mistake with doing this however their rational to not clearing it up properly was that they would have to use the mail list yet again. I couldn't be bothered at that time to point out most companies would issue an apology on a webpage usualy the index page of their website mainly because its so obvious and the norm so I just ignored the post and threw my hands up in frustration yet again.

My feeling is that no one has had much experience in anything except coding nor actualy dealt with the online world as a source of business. Then again I remember that there is xavier and the ex-csr's from this very game and I get confused. Anyhow its neither here nor there really if they win the bid I hope its because they were the last resort in which case my logic says "what harm can it do" really. What I dont want is for them to win over a better choice. If there is no other choice then fine hehe

Anyhow that is the little amount i think its in the thread "xaviers at it" about half way in or so err a good 10-15 pages now i suppose.

I'd take even SOE (gasp) over a couple guys who got a website and some money together.

I've had people tell me, no no you don't understand, go read everything on their site, you'll agree they have a brilliant plan.

The answer to that is, it's not my job.

I'm here to play a game. I support whatever allows everyone to keep playing an enjoyable well-maintained game. If a decent company with the servers, experience and skills to do a good job doesn't buy the game (and it sure sounds like more than one are interested in doing exactly that) then Ryzom should gracefully go black, not be turned into someone's hobby patched together with twine and tape. This isn't some Morrowind mod here where you post on the boards "hey who's good at modelling furniture, we're thinking of making some for the next patch....anyone good with trueSpace??"

MMOGs on the scale of Ryzom aren't a community project. They are a business. A business, a real business, a gaming business needs to buy Ryzom.

Well said friend.

Hehe I have no intention of even attempting to play it if ryzom.org does get it, but like I said if its going in the garbage anyhow why not? might keep it alive for future use. Here is the recent example of why I think that.

Myst online was trashed years ago and given to a bunch of myst fans who kept it running on their servers for a couple of years. One day the creators of myst looked at it again. They realized that scattered all over the place were people playing little online versions of myst all over the planet. So they have now revived myst online live and its being released very soon. I love myst and can't wait for the online version to be released & part of the reason it got a second chance in a "real gaming" business was because a few coders/geeks/hobbyists kept it alive in back rooms. Of course in that case no money changed hands, but you never know what the future would bring if the original creators of ryzom turn around in 5 years and see a scattered community still playing their game and they look at the numbers and think they can breath life into ryzom once more.

That's my reason

Edit: Removed because of respondents concerns. Sorry if I was not supposed to post quotes here.