Ryzom

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:34 am**

Dear Doubletap, this begins to sound like a personal vendetta from you. Not only your outpost have received false war declarations ((obviously Nevrax must fix this)), but I guarantee that if you get one from us - it will not be under false name.

I am ashamed that you drag Jena's name into these hostile takeovers you Jinovitch-spawn, this is purely a matter of greed and you know it.

~Ulani~

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:25 am**

cloudy97 wrote:Not only your outpost have received false war declarations ((obviously Nevrax must fix this))

They could limit it by limiting guilds to only one attack at the same time.

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:32 am**

So a mystery guild that could be any kami/kara/neutral player declares on some kara outposts.

CoM rightly complain about it. CoM 'falsely' declare war on 6 kami/neutral guilds.

The Soul attacks the karavan outposts.

CoM then take advantage of their multiple declarations and win the attack round on Lost Valley Stronghold (Void, threshold 6, 4am-ish GMT Sunday defence, currently owned by MoV).

I don't think CoM has much to complain about now.

So what happens next? Should all 6 of those kami/neutral guilds make 6 declarations each on CoM and the others showing up to help them attack MoV? That's 72 hours of attacks. And so on, and so on...

Clearly the declaration system is still a joke. While this isn't perfect, I suggest:

1) A guild can make one attack per day. Multiple attack strategies are still possible by using allies if you feel you really need to.

2) Guilds must have to exist for a period of time before being able to attack.

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:08 pm**

lol sounds more n more like someone in KA made the Karavanhaters Guild just so they could "justify" using these Fake tactics

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:11 pm**

vguerin wrote:[OOC] Bgraz... Well, our point tonight was made... aggroing folks in the forums is gonna cost you too. Many of us sat for hours under these false attacks, and we took a Kami OP in retaliation.

1st bgraz congrats on ur post think ur not far from what actually is going on here ( i have no idea who u are but my regards)

2nd ow dt hell maybe u made the karavanhaters to make the fuzz and now u got one op more well done nice tactic ...

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:13 pm**

petej wrote:lol sounds more n more like someone in KA made the Karavanhaters Guild just so they could "justify" using these Fake tactics

damn pete u were 2 secs earlier

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:19 pm**

boinged wrote:CoM 'falsely' declare war on 6 kami/neutral guilds. [...] CoM then take advantage of their multiple declarations and win the attack round on Lost Valley Stronghold (Void, threshold 6, 4am-ish GMT Sunday defence, currently owned by MoV).

lol sounds more n more like someone in KA made the Karavanhaters Guild just so they could "justify" using these Fake tactics

While I'm sure my post will get picked apart and accused of various things, I feel the need to set this straight.

* No CoM members (afaik) took part in the initial attack on LVS (ie raising it to threshold)
* I was on vent when this attack was suggested. At the time everyone was quite understandably peeved by the running around after The Soul, and listening to their smacktalk in every regionchat they were in. The actual suggestion to take LVS was given in the manner of a "You know what would be funny...?

" moment (note: it was not said with those words, I'm using a well-known situation to explain the manner in which it was said)
* No MoV was present for the Attack phase - I guess they assumed it was a "fake" attack; fair enough, but did the other guilds declared on in this manner show up? I know all of the Karavan guilds, Fyros Defenders, and Samsara showed up.
* MoV had left their Defence phase time at default - by chance this was only 2hrs after the end of the Attack phase; none of them being online meant the OP was taken without a fight (I'm not counting the Samsara in the Defence phase, or Jazirel and Redslayer who gave us some fun for a while)

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:20 pm**

They should add the guild leader of the attacking guild to the op window

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:39 pm**

sprite wrote:While I'm sure my post will get picked apart and accused of various things, I feel the need to set this straight.

* No CoM members (afaik) took part in the initial attack on LVS (ie raising it to threshold)
* I was on vent when this attack was suggested. At the time everyone was quite understandably peeved by the running around after The Soul, and listening to their smacktalk in every regionchat they were in. The actual suggestion to take LVS was given in the manner of a "You know what would be funny...? " moment (note: it was not said with those words, I'm using a well-known situation to explain the manner in which it was said)
* No MoV was present for the Attack phase - I guess they assumed it was a "fake" attack; fair enough, but did the other guilds declared on in this manner show up? I know all of the Karavan guilds, Fyros Defenders, and Samsara showed up.
* MoV had left their Defence phase time at default - by chance this was only 2hrs after the end of the Attack phase; none of them being online meant the OP was taken without a fight (I'm not counting the Samsara in the Defence phase, or Jazriel (sp?) and Redslayer who gave us some fun for a while)

Imo u shouldnt be able to attack an OP if the attacker didnt join at attackphase. And isnt it goin behind ur friends back if they told not to attack?
Otherwise those attackers are false, and the worst of homins ever lived on Atys.

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:48 pm**

putterix wrote:Imo u shouldnt be able to attack an OP if the attacker didnt join at attackphase. And isnt it goin behind ur friends back if they told not to attack?
Otherwise those attackers are false, and the worst of homins ever lived on Atys.

I agree if the original attackers do not show then it really shouldn't count

Sprite wrote:or Jazirel and Redslayer who gave us some fun for a while

Yeah that was fun for a bit

even took out 10 or so of you once we got help from a 3rd peep lol

..But was all in fun and thanks to all there for not killing Jaz (tomany times) so we could rez easier

Ryzom

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