Ryzom

audrimas wrote:I have an idea how we all, kamis and karas, whole community can end this mess

Lets end all OP wars. Give all OPs to community OP holders and all guilds will share fair amount of cats and mats. No more PvP. No more OP. No more PR wars/ganks. No more aggro dragging. No more false and real declarations. No more spawn camping. Community will become "cool-community-before-OP-introduction". We all will live in peace. We will fight kitins only.

granted while i only start playing 2 months ago, after about 4 op battles i told my guild i wasnt going to use cats anymore in exchange for the fact i wasnt going to go op battles. every op battle i go to just makes me want to quit playing ryzom.

blaah wrote: .. and one side taking all the ops. cant. kamis are putting up a fight. blame kamis for op wars.

last time time i checked the kami dont want all the ops, just the ones in kami territory.

viper579 wrote: last time time i checked the kami dont want all the ops, just the ones in kami territory.

haha? According to many kamists, that is 3 out of 4 regions, and there are still attacks in the forest. Check again.

audrimas wrote:I have an idea how we all, kamis and karas, whole community can end this mess

Lets end all OP wars. Give all OPs to community OP holders and all guilds will share fair amount of cats and mats. No more PvP. No more OP. No more PR wars/ganks. No more aggro dragging. No more false and real declarations. No more spawn camping. Community will become "cool-community-before-OP-introduction". We all will live in peace. We will fight kitins only.

/Peace

this is the answer!
DD

but they won't send the kitins to try and kill us these days

skifryan wrote:haha? According to many kamists, that is 3 out of 4 regions, and there are still attacks in the forest. Check again.

that many doesnt equal the leadership of the kami alliance.

blaah wrote:Cho wasnt real Ryzom. it would of been if not all those bored Arispotle players would not been there to ruin... err making it easy for newcomers.

... and you ARE supposed to fight for cats/bosses/sup's and not just get them when you want.

.. and one side taking all the ops. cant. kamis are putting up a fight. blame kamis for op wars.

blah blahh, thats all tis really sounds liks, cats drive people out of this game, and as for cho not being real ryzom...ll just bite my tounge and not make a comment on that................................................................

wardone wrote:but they won't send the kitins to try and kill us these days

thats a good point, i guess since events these days are just story telling the only thing left that has any variance is op battles. though they just come down to who heavily outnumbers the other side.

audrimas wrote:I have an idea how we all, kamis and karas, whole community can end this mess

Lets end all OP wars. Give all OPs to community OP holders and all guilds will share fair amount of cats and mats. No more PvP. No more OP. No more PR wars/ganks. No more aggro dragging. No more false and real declarations. No more spawn camping. Community will become "cool-community-before-OP-introduction". We all will live in peace. We will fight kitins only.

/Peace

Well Thought MJ, by doing thjis then we could implement one of the long forgotten idea of this game: POWER TO THE PLAYERS

They want us to fight against each other on their behalf? lets say NO and share it all....
Then Alliances will have more time on their hand and could maybe start to run more player events (PvP or not) than just the boring "attack you when you work/sleep" strategies.....

Powa to da playa

I really think we would all benefit of such scenario.....
And before CHO (even tho OP were not there), it was also the case on Ari where all players were just a big family....
That was the time when we had events run by players and not OP PvP events only...

VOTE MJ

And we can always leave an OP q50 for blaah to fight and fight and fight and fight...

Hmm in my eyes there as always been agro dragging in OP wars, on both sides... CSRs didnt/couldnt stop it. So in then end nothing is lost by the CSRs not being present at the Op battles. All they did in my eyes anyhow was get in the way and had no real power (sorta like a jail house... there are guards there and a warden but the prisoners run the jail in the end).

As for false declarations i always been told they are used as a tactical ploy on the other servers. And that GF couldnt produce a rule that effected a single server and with it being a well accepted tactic there was nothing we could do about it but me mature adults. If we use false decelerations as a way to harass another player or guild in the game then we will be officially breaking the CoC if it is repeated event (which and hopefully shouldnt happen).

Therefore i see GF being honest to us with how things are in the game and enforcing CSRs from creating rules that shouldnt hold any weight at all cause lacking backing from GF. I just hope we as a community can stop acting like school girls and actually start acting like mature adults we all say we are. If we take things in a mature sense this shouldnt effect us at all.

viper579 wrote:that many doesnt equal the leadership of the kami alliance.

There isnt "leadership" really, every one does as he likes. And the attacks in Tryker are for a major Tryker guild who would love to have an op in its homeland too...

The attacks in the forest are mostly "for fun". Serious attacks in the forest are very, very, very rare, mostly cause most of the kami guilds stick to the "free our homelands"