That has nothing to do with it, at least for most. None of the many people who have posted have expressed any such concern, that I recall. It is because PvP was not an intregal part of the game when we joined, and that is the very REASON many of us joined. It is because we see it as the death of any sembalance of politeness on the forums, and the gateway to griefers/gankers which will cause new players to quit (thereby shortening the life of the game).kwhopper wrote:What is the big stigma with PvP? Worried that you'll get killed once or twice by someone who doesn't like you? How often do you REALLy think that is going to happen, compared to how often you play? Is the prospect of killing another player so utterly terrible that you can't even think of doing it? What is so bad about a conflict between the different factions?
War solves nothing. Just because those in charge (ie. Kami/Karavan in game, Neverax out) have decided something, or taken a particular stance, doesn't mean the populace does. Many have moved past the need for leaders, governing bodies may now be composed of high-ranking servants. They work for you, not the other way around.kwhopper wrote:If everyone is so insistent on being so nice and friendly, why even have factions? Everyone should just be a homin with no loyalties...no Kami, no Karavan. Why align yourself with something if it doesn't matter in the sense of the gameplay/story/anything?
Yep, and murdering each other in-game will bring about more bad blood. I think the long-term goal in Ryzom, at least in a political sense, is to learn enough about each other that we realize how valuable we are to each other. The Fyros' bravery. The Matis' sense of order and organization. The Tryker's unconventional methods and thinking. The Zoria's contemplation of the universe from a spiritual vantage. Seperately, they are flaws (Fyros=brash/hasty, Matis=arrogant/stodgy, Tryker=flighty/disorganized, Zorai=head-in-the-clouds/ non-productive). Together, however, you acheive the perfect components for an amazingly strong society.kwhopper wrote:With the past conflicts between these races I would think there would be some bad blood. Only taking a couple events to set things in motion. Perhaps it could be something worked into the storyline and the conflict will facilitate more RP...just of the not so nice, "I don't like you for (insert reason here)" variety.
ummmmm.....Kitins? Still a threat. Find a solution to that first, then you have the option to spend all your time in a PvP zone, if you so desire.kwhopper wrote:What do you do when you have gotten a combat skill to 250? Just abandon it and start something else? What was the point...really? AI can only present so much of a challenge, especially when they just come in waves and there is no scripting to the battles. Nuke/heal enough and you win.
I too hope outposts will provide more than a blood-soaked field. However, as thoroughly discussed earlier, PvP need not be a part of them, that's just Neverax being lazy, and thoughtless.kwhopper wrote:Hopefully outposts will be more than just a place to go kill people. I hope to see them actually have elements that take all professions into mind. However I do think that fighting should be something included in these elements. Also, I hope to see FvF zones actually have some impact on region control and what not, so it actually means something (unlike contested territory in WoW, which really isn't contested).
That'd be good. And, if so, how's about letting all those who want to be murderers move there, allow those who want peace on that server move here, and make it the PvP server, and LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE.kwhopper wrote:Onelast question. Is there a way to transfer to the French server, or make a character on there? I'd be interested to know.
It's amazing that we are actually debateing the pros and cons of murder, when it would require a more restrictive rating just to show female nipples, let alone either sex's genitalia. Killing another is sometimes necessary, but it is never a good thing, only, at best, the lesser of two evils. I would much rather have sex with someone I was mildly fond of, than kill someone I hate.
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