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Re: Just some quick thoughts on E3
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:32 pm
by amcyr
I thought that a guild can only have 1 outpost.
I also thought that some outposts had more value than others (or could be increased in value).
If so, then a guild with a high-value outpost would not attack a lower-value outpost, for fear of winning and losing their high-value outpost. So basically, a hierarchy would form with the stronger guilds vying for the high-value outposts, and the weaker guilds settling for the lower-value outposts.
Isn't that the commonly held view?
Re: Just some quick thoughts on E3
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:33 pm
by sehracii
I'm pretty sure I've seenit officially stated that owning multiple outposts will be possible, just difficult because of cost.
(but I also heard that it's about 4k a day regular maintenance, so that doesn't seem prohibitive in the least, not counting fortifications)
Although what you stated does sound like it would be a nice solution to a lot of people's concerns. Everyone gets an outpost without fear of a giant guild swallowing them up, but there's still something to fight over in an even match for an outpost appropriate to your level.
Re: Just some quick thoughts on E3
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:41 pm
by larwood
sehracii wrote:(but I also heard that it's about 4k a day regular maintenance, so that doesn't seem prohibitive in the least, not counting fortifications)
LOL... 4K a day?? Thats like... you could sell a sword to the NPC q100 and pay for 2-3 days!! I Think that for it to be prohibitive... it needs to be adjustaded to the level of the occupying guild... so 4k might be ok for a low young guild (i would say 10k-20k thou)... and a large guild would be like 100k-200k a day.

That way you will value it, and not just fluff it off.
How many tp's do each of us go through a day? sheesh and they are 12500 a piece!!!
Re: Just some quick thoughts on E3
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:30 pm
by marct
sehracii wrote:I'm pretty sure I've seenit officially stated that owning multiple outposts will be possible, just difficult because of cost.
(but I also heard that it's about 4k a day regular maintenance, so that doesn't seem prohibitive in the least, not counting fortifications)
Imagine if it is an exponential scale though. Owning the second outpost is 40,000 a day, the third 400,000 a day, the fourth 800,000 a day, etc.
Once we have a few more people you may have a hard time holding on to the post you want anyways, specially if the beneifts of some are better than the benefits of others. Say a farm automatically produces the mats you ask it to, maybe 1,000 mats a day or something... I would fight for that.
Noin.
Re: Just some quick thoughts on E3
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:49 pm
by raynes
larwood wrote:LOL... 4K a day?? Thats like... you could sell a sword to the NPC q100 and pay for 2-3 days!! I Think that for it to be prohibitive... it needs to be adjustaded to the level of the occupying guild... so 4k might be ok for a low young guild (i would say 10k-20k thou)... and a large guild would be like 100k-200k a day.

That way you will value it, and not just fluff it off.
How many tp's do each of us go through a day? sheesh and they are 12500 a piece!!!
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk you are thinking too small. Lets say NPC's cost 30K each to hire and 4K per day to maintain. You have to buy them in groups of 6.
You want to make sure you are well protected so you want to have 100 troups ready to defend your outpost.
6 X 30000 X 17 = 3,060,000 to start.
The cost of maintaining this pre daycomes to:
6 X 4000 X 17 = 408,000
Now you want to have 3 outposts:
3,060,000 X 3 = 9,180,000 to set up
408,000 X 3 = 1.224 mil per day.
Not exactly a small amount of daper. This doesn't take into account the fact that some will die during the attacks on your outpost. In which case you will want to hire replacements which will cost you another 30K + 4K per day each.
Re: Just some quick thoughts on E3
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:41 pm
by larwood
raynes wrote:Tsk, Tsk, Tsk y...30K ... 4K....6. ...100 ...6 X 30000 X 17 = 3,060,000 to start.....
6 X 4000 X 17 = 408,000... 3 outposts:
3,060,000 X 3 = 9,180,000 to set up
408,000 X 3 = 1.224 mil per day.... 30K + 4K....
way too many numbers for me.... *pulls out the calculator and gives up all hope of survival*