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Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:48 pm
by kaetemi
stelf wrote:and it wasn't nonsense either Kaetemi
There is no such thing as hacked armors with a quality higher than one.

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:54 pm
by wakatack69
Deleted By Me! :p

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:42 pm
by chibiarc
This thread is full of people who talk about things, they heard from a friend who got it from his friend's sister. With some exceptions of course, they know who they are *hug*

I will stop reading this nonsense aswell as posting, I am sure alot was made possible to improve the game and the community with all the work done. For example, would you not enjoy an awesome ring scenario if it was created by 3rd party aid?

I think in this thread we see all the hate and anger about the game's loss summed up and spit at the wrong people. I wrote it earlier and I'll write it again, if you call this our "beloved community" I don't know... mine died with the beta.

arc over and out.

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:34 am
by nazak07
They should be able to track the hacked items I would think, typically games like this items have specific identifiers and are traceable.... and from what I hear, the cheat/hack that people are useing to create items... Horrible ;'(... It's limited to 1q?... Do things like hp eggs, speed eggs, invul eggs, npc craft parts ect need higher then 1q to have a huge impact on the game? Nope, hacked hp eggs= near infinite pvp life, hacked NPC plans= many crafters with access to creating the armor, with merely a crystal... Sure puts to hell the work GoJ's been through. :'(... and rare things like NPC armor and other special items value drastically drops, I know ratara was sad when GoJ finally got a full set of pei and I won it in the raffle reducing her uniqueness. How would her and myself feel should everyone in the server be wearing it even if it's 1q? :p

Possbile solutions? I'd say perma ban for people useing things like this, and banning of Accounts that share the same, ip, Credit Card information, and any other things that are obviously associated to them. It's stealing from the game, and shouldn't be tolerated. Many of the players here think of this game as a second home, and the people as a second family... With most of us being so friendly and kind to one another. Why would we want thiefs in our homes? If I ever see anyone running around with stuff they shouldn't have aka 1Q NPC armor... I will not think twice about turning them in, even should they be a close friend.. shameful ;'(... But I've heard through the grapevine it's happening now.

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:08 am
by kaetemi
nazak07 wrote:I know ratara was sad when GoJ finally got a full set of pei and I won it in the raffle reducing her uniqueness. How would her and myself feel should everyone in the server be wearing it even if it's 1q? :p
Well, that's still impossible, since the q1 is only in beige.
nazak07 wrote:hacked NPC plans= many crafters with access to creating the armor, with merely a crystal...
Well, I'm pretty sure most people can find out who has real plans, which would mean that anyone who's stupid enough to spawn and actually use plans, won't be able to get access to real crystals anyway, and will likely be found out very easily.

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:16 am
by nazak07
Yeah though I did see a character running around with a hacked stuff about 4 weeks back, at the time I didn't know it was hacked items aka a pirate shield, though I was informed later about the hacking thing at the time. I think though those who do such things, won't be able to resist not using the items they make, too much a temptation. Also why make them if you never were planning on using it? lol

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:47 am
by viper579
stelf wrote:I understand LOUD AND CLEAR Xtarsia but messing with code is, regardless of your intentions, wrong and leaves you open to the same abuse as the culprit.
Just because something is shipped with the game it doesn't give you the right to go into game files to implement it. If it was to be implemented it would be implemented regardless of dev hours it took to design.

I don't think I have ever fell out with you before Xtarsia and I don't intend to do so now. I think I am right and you think you are. I won't be posting again.

it would take all of 5 minutes to turn the ring scenario servers off, the fact that GF kept / keeps then running while knowing what the ring is capable of shows that they endorse the full current fuctionality of the ring.

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:24 am
by Androbia
Please allow me to interject at this point:

14. RULES OF BEHAVIOR.You acknowledge that the proper functioning and success of an On-line Role-playing Game such as Ryzom and/or Ryzom Ring depends on a delicate balance which Gameforge France has to maintain. The User is therefore strictly forbidden: (a) to use any program or method to change the content or functionalities of the Game ; (b) to cause the server to be overloaded; (c) to use any procedure to make it easier to obtain any instruction faster than through the ordinary course of play ; (d) to modify the user interface or any other component in order to obtain objects, experience points, currency, characters' attributes, ranks, etc., other than as the result of proper normal use of the Game ; (e) to buy, sell or transfer Game characters or their attributes. Furthermore, the User must at all times observe the Code of Conduct, the Courtesy Policies and the Ryzom Naming Charter displayed on the Game's website at http://www.ryzom.com, whose contents are hereby declared an integral part of this Contract. We reserve the right to take any emergency measures on your account (including suspending or canceling it) which we think fit, if we believe that your use is contravening the above prohibitions.
This statement extracted from the EULA superseeds any and all statements ingame, This is accepted by every player when they log into the game and those players that either knowingly or unknowingly break this condition of the EULA can expect that if i or any member of my staff recieve irrefutable proof that they have indeed broken this condition they will be banned!
Simple as that, there will be no argument and most certainly there will be no reprieve.

Currently as you are all aware there is no developement team which makes gathering such information very difficult, I certainly am aware that this "feature" is being exploited by a small number of players and am mostly aware of those involved in this exploitation. But please also be aware that allthough they may consider they have gotten away with it to date indeed they have not.

It has been said at various times in this post that use of this bug is not in fact an exploit, Please allow me to clarify that point.

An exploit is defined as the use of a feature or bug to gain advantage over and above another player or use of a bug to gain advantage where there would not under normal circumstances exist such oppertunity.

Ladies and Gentlemen, It doesn't matter to me what fancy words you use to describe what you are doing one simple fact remains: "You are exploiting". or more simply put "you are cheating"
Upon reciept by myself of proof of this you will be permenantly banned, I do not care who you are or who you think you are if you are not a developer of Ryzom using a dev account to investigate reported bugs then you have no bussiness involving yourselves in the level of code dessemination that is necessary to allow this to work.

Have a great day and do please look after each other.

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:09 am
by dakhound
cool............glad thats clear

Re: Come Back Everyone

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:35 am
by ajsuk
viper579 wrote:it would take all of 5 minutes to turn the ring scenario servers off, the fact that GF kept / keeps then running while knowing what the ring is capable of shows that they endorse the full current fuctionality of the ring.
rofl, not exactly Mr Current Affairs are ya.

/cheer Andro