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riveit wrote:The greatest obstacle for supreme HA crafters was always in acquiring enough maximum parry and protection factor boss mats. Now could be a great time to get those Kyerna!

I don't think I remember a better set of stats than rubbarn boosted dug mats. +3 parry and 100% Protect obtainable with the right boss mats but I don't think the individual resistances are as high as high a sthe rubbatn boosted dug sups. I do remember that smashing resistance was pretty bad on the boss 250 sets. However I made a few 220 sets from boss mats which were better "pound for pound" (read "for their level" .... had stats closer to max for that level) than 250 ones made from 270 bosses.

amps are easy can make a nice set from just dug mats like i did for saraii yesturday

jared96 wrote:I don't think I remember a better set of stats than rubbarn boosted dug mats. +3 parry and 100% Protect obtainable with the right boss mats but I don't think the individual resistances are as high as high a sthe rubbatn boosted dug sups.

True that a rubarn boosted sup dug set would surpass any other non-boosted set, but it would still depend on the mix. Even with only sup dug mats there's a couple of mixes to choose from.

jared96 wrote:I do remember that smashing resistance was pretty bad on the boss 250 sets. However I made a few 220 sets from boss mats which were better "pound for pound" (read "for their level" .... had stats closer to max for that level) than 250 ones made from 270 bosses.

I'm going to disagree on the smashing resistance part; that's all down to the mix. But you're right on lower quality level sets being easier to get more all-round higher stats. Unfortunatly, not to many seem to be interested in investing dearly in superb sets of that ql level. A real shame since there's plenty more room for experimentation and mixing due to the broader range of materials to choose from.

calel wrote:I'm going to disagree on the smashing resistance part; that's all down to the mix.

I can only go by what I have either from:

a) what I have made
b) what others have shown me
c) what I have tried in the craft simulator

Yes, you can up the smashing resistance but only, in my experience, at the cost of something else. The last thing most peeps want nerfed is parry and PF. So by boosting smash, you are hurting either pierce or slash.

I'm not in game so I can't look but looking at my simulator predictions the three protections are at 93% / 53% / 76 %....an average of 74%. Whenever I have tried boosting smash, one of the other two resists took a hit. I'd bet I could keep the PF and parry high and get any one of the resists in the mid 90's if I experimented enough but given the frequency of both PvE and PvP smashing attacks, the low smash recipe seems the most desired.

Boosted rubbarn comes in at 100% / 94% / 87% for an average of 93.7 I couldn't get near that with QL 270 mats.

I still pop in once and a while but work has me nuts leaving me no time. If ya catch me in game would love to discuss.

calel wrote:TBut you're right on lower quality level sets being easier to get more all-round higher stats. Unfortunatly, not to many seem to be interested in investing dearly in superb sets of that ql level. A real shame since there's plenty more room for experimentation and mixing due to the broader range of materials to choose from.

And some different colors too Most of the 220 sets I have made come out a nice blue. Get tired of white and black all the time. The 270 Fyros set I found I can make either way (white or black) by changing just one mat. White has a stat advantage tho it's quite marginal.

HA is a bit harder craft wise, or perhaps easier in some sense, in that mixing in low quality (i.e. basic) mats doesn't seem to improve our options.

jared96 wrote:I don't think I remember a better set of stats than rubbarn boosted dug mats.

And those rubbarn boosted supreme dug mat sets were soooo easy to produce. What did you say again, Freddy? One boost in 150 tries?

riveit wrote:Is there a better jewel recipe?

I mixed a few unboosted jewels that were 8/8/7 protects and 8/8/7.7 resists. I also had a recipe for 8/7/7 protects with 8/8/8 resists. I won't mention other details so as not to make any recipe obvious. However, I still wonder if there were better recipes. Can one craft a non-boosted jewel that was all six 8's?

Yes, i think so, but only for some resists/protects. Only saw it in pre-craft as my jewel craft skill is too low for me to want to hit <go> with those mats

riveit wrote:And those rubbarn boosted supreme dug mat sets were soooo easy to produce. What did you say again, Freddy? One boost in 150 tries?

yeah well there's an evil little rubbarn devil .....

I don't grind say "boots" till I get a boost. I was making primarily "sets" for people. So if I amde 3 sets of 250 (3 boots, 3 gloves, etc) in a row on a given nite I would get no boosts. Do 2 the naxt nite, no boosts.....do 2 more few days later no boosts ..... then I go make a 230 set for someone and bang, I'd get 2/5 pieces to boost.

When I first started making 250 sup dug sets, actually got a boosted set of sleeves on my 2nd try ... it was 184 QL 250 crafts later (and a ton of 200-230 boosts in between) when I got my second QL 250 boost .... but that set was for someone else so didn't help me any

For the alst 6 months or so iw a splaying, I wasonly digging when someone needed a set .... at that rate, I figure 2 or 3 more years and I will have a full set for myself.

The way to do it, and I am sure many will agree is to use the science of large numbers and just grind boots say till ya get one. Then go to pants and so on working ya way up .... or way down if ya prefer. For me though, I didn't have room to store all that stuff so just made one set at a a time.

riveit wrote:However, I still wonder if there were better recipes. Can one craft a non-boosted jewel that was all six 8's?

If ya would like me to try anything in the simulator let me know and I will give it a shot.

jared96 wrote:yeah well there's an evil little rubbarn devil .....

Funny story ...

Almost a year ago, January 23rd (yeah I'm nuts, wrote down the exact time of it ) I managed to finish my first complete set. All materials were suplied by the customer, totalling a bit more than 6000 materials, work of months and months gathering them. Practically all materials were used up in one massive supreme crafting session in less than an hour and a half, focussing on one part till it boosted then moving on to the next one. I hadn't heard of any fully boosted sets so figured I might have made the first, or at least on the server. If anyone beat me to it, feel free to name yourself as it's still a feat in my eyes.

Shortly after more nutters came to me proposing to supply me with as many materials as they could. Two gave up after 5 weeks and no single boost had been made. A third persisted and it took 6 months of delivering materials, crafting to get the set done. 5 of the parts boosted within the first 2 months, the last part only 4 months after. I have no clue exactly how many materials went in the creation of that set. We stopped believing we'd ever get that last part in the end.

Just for the sake of it and as apreciation for my time I was handed the leftover materials, about 130 or so. I joked on getting a boost now as it would prove how much bad luck we had with the previous set. It boosted on first attempt ... It was hilarious. Since the customer had a set now and the materials were donated I was left to decide wath to do with the rest. So I attempted a second part. Surely it boosted once more.

All in all, my third set took 13 crafts of which 5 degrades. During the crafting we both laughed and wept, it was surreal to have such luck after all the trouble with the set before. Someone even promissed to kiss Riveit if we made a fourth part boost. (to bad you were afk at the stables Riv, so we just put trouts down your pants instead ) Probably one of my best memories i'll ever have to Ryzom, as a player but most importantly as a crafter.

Since then i've been working on two seperate sets, whenever I got supreme materials as payment or managed to hit the supernodes. Both are 50% done.
Before, boosted parts always went to the suplier. I know many would call it dumb, I call it a matter of trust. I never kept track of individually boosted pieces but i'm sure there's a fair amount of them out there with my name on it. But ever since the third set I have always asked permission to keep the piece if it boosted, reimbursing the materials; and surprisingly many did not object. Maybe some day i'll manage to get these two little treasures done. Hopefully I've still got the luck of the last set lingering in my fingers.

The trick to it all is imo to craft sets till you boost a piece. Then move on to the next set but change tools on the already acquaiered(sp? can't seem to remember) pieces. You'll have full sets to donate or sell and won't be stuck with several boosted helmets or pants. Ofcourse it's a lousy trick, but less wastefull than wasting sups on a grind for just one set.

I'm sure there's lots of myths and legends by now on how to 'trick' the tool.


(And don't anyone come asking who is holding those sets; unless they go public with it themselves i'm still tied to keep their identity secret. Thanks a lot to all of you for your trust, your kindness and allowing me to experiment and fashion you the 'best' sets on Atys.)