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Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:45 am
by tigrus
I think they should at least make Cho a pvp server... EITHER kami or kara... /flameresistanttrykerheavyarmorequip.....

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:53 am
by d29565
I dont believe Jyudus was being xenophopic in the least. I think he was trying to state one of the things observed in the "now." Not earlier when DCP and the like were about, but now. It's simple statistics really. Or maybe it is psycology. It's one of those "study of social groups" or whatever. Jyudus is just open to all views, I think.

On a different note, I say we ship Jackoba off so he doesn't keep making us lose OP battles, it is him that they Target after all :)

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:00 pm
by dakhound
d29565 wrote:On a different note, I say we ship Jackoba off so he doesn't keep making us lose OP battles, it is him that they Target after all :)
pfft wouldnt be a problem if you did your job n healed me enough :D , I play a vital role of punchbag throughout :P

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:07 pm
by ashling
d29565 wrote:I dont believe Jyudus was being xenophopic in the least.
I don't think he was either. I remember seeing reports (although I forget exactly where) showing that different gamestyles tended to sell better in different regions. It was First Person Shooters for the US and Real Time Stratigy for Europe and a very vague decription for Japan :P . That of course doesn't meant FPS and RTS games don't sell or appeal in both of USA an Europe as they clearly do, but it is a noticible trend in sales in those regions all the same.

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:26 pm
by danolt
Ryzom is certainly a niche game. That means it appeals to a certain group of people. The advertisements used to get players in Europe and in NA are the same, the strategy was the same, their target audience was the same.

No amount of grad school, coffee house logic can explain away that we are all the same basic demographic. We all choose to play this extremely hard to find MMO.

I'll sum it up with one question.

Are American chess players more aggressive then Europeans?

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:29 pm
by borg9
danolt wrote: Are American chess players more aggressive then Europeans?

What all Europeans, even the passive non-chess playing ones?

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:36 pm
by johntf
gillest wrote:I don't think that's true and is a bit charicatural imo.
before merge, DCP and AoA did a lot of PvP in PR as well.
Lot of Europeans do PvP as well..

I didn't say all americans and I gave a valid reason for this at least to me
johntf wrote:Personally I think the only reason that pvp is more us time zone orientated is that there's more american players than euro ones
Not to mention it's not about who's more negative in the stance of if your american you are more negative then european, it's stated in the realist stance in that at the moment due to server population split between the continents that there are phsyically more pvpers on the american side. And although I don't think its a good idea if Jyudas idea was to be put into affect it would help to balance out and make pvp more fair and interesting.

And heh well Jyudas I don't have a lot of faith or humanity in me so I'm suprised :P

And the worry about it draining players away from arpostyle is one I have but only if the server is set up in the way we think, since no information has been given about it I don't like to speculate. But if it is like we think many if not most new players will move over there as they want to make the world their own in an easier and quicker manner than they can over here, and some mid range players who have got the hang with how to level fast now but aren't too high may move over for the same reasons and a chance to be big amongst them. Also the older players a few jaded or bored ones may move over if just to establish some kind of prescense there be it to maintain a status quo or help create a new one.

Either way I worry about what it may do to our population and server, I worry that the old are brushed aside for the new when their usefuless has worn out and they seem to pose a threat to the newer players (only to the ignorant and blind but never the less ive seen this situation be realised many times in many situations). MY only hope is that since server popualtion is not listed and most people don't read forums before making a character there will be a 50/50 ish chance of new blood coming in quite regulary to this server.

Personally I really hope it doesn't turn out like that I do >.<

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:45 pm
by iphdrunk
johntf wrote:I
Either way I worry about what it may do to our population and server, I worry that the old are brushed aside for the new when their usefuless has worn out and they seem to pose a threat to the newer players (only to the ignorant and blind but never the less ive seen this situation be realised many times in many situations). MY only hope is that since server popualtion is not listed and most people don't read forums before making a character there will be a 50/50 ish chance of new blood coming in quite regulary to this server.

Personally I really hope it doesn't turn out like that I do >.<
I share these feelings as well, as stated in previous posts. Unreasonable, maybe, but I can understand "older players" feeling left aside, "thanks guys, now that the thing seems to be in better shape, let's start over. We got plenty of things to offer specially to new players, let's also market it like a brand new shard". Probably it's not like this, justifying with the oh!so-praised Kitin Lair, which for the time being remains vaporware, but then, what was the reasoning behind this?"

Other than the oldest players, I guess recent newcomers may also be wondering "should I start over with my low level toon / guild with the hopes that things will be easier; funnier at cho?"

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:48 pm
by ashling
danolt wrote:Ryzom is certainly a niche game. That means it appeals to a certain group of people. The advertisements used to get players in Europe and in NA are the same, the strategy was the same, their target audience was the same.

No amount of grad school, coffee house logic can explain away that we are all the same basic demographic. We all choose to play this extremely hard to find MMO.

I'll sum it up with one question.

Are American chess players more aggressive then Europeans?
Fair point about it being a niche game and that is bound to have an effect but you know nonone called USA players more aggressive untill you just did. The closest I saw was that maybe USE players like PvPer more but being a PvPer and being agressive don't automatically go hand in hand :)

Re: New server?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:14 pm
by rothimar
Heck, I'm a US player... and I feel bad everytime I kill a Yubo. ;)
ashling wrote:Fair point about it being a niche game and that is bound to have an effect but you know nonone called USA players more aggressive untill you just did. The closest I saw was that maybe USE players like PvPer more but being a PvPer and being agressive don't automatically go hand in hand :)