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Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:30 pm
by jared96
Ok, I came........I saw......I yawned.

I ignored the 1st four hours of the event (KT was pretty good) but I actually stood at the Pyr spawn for the 1st hour watching the same peeps spawn every 2 or 3 minutes over and over again. Was like a whacky copy or cloning machine spittin out carbon copy droids every few seconds. Spawn.....run to temple.....port....die....spawn...run to temple...port...die

I then plodded over to the temple to see what was going on. Figured let me see if I can involve myself in the story for a bit before walking away from it. Hung out for about four hours crafting away as it seems crafters were not getting ganked back in their homelands so maybe it does give those not interested in PvP'ing something to do. At about 4 am, I got a PM saying that I was No. 1 on the leaderboard for crafting and that our guild was in No. 2.

Cool, I thought until I asked....what percentage of the thing is done and the answer was 1% on one of the 3 lines. A good 24 hours after the event started I was shocked to see that I was still leading the board and that our guild had jumped up to number one also. I checked the progress and saw that the temple's 3 progress lines added up to just 3% out of 300% and realized, yeah right......I might just sit here for 3 months and do this !. Even if they triple output, it will take a month. Sorry, too boring.

On the other hand, I did take the tp trip to get a peek at the new lands and looking at the map I saw another version of "boob island". Now that term requires some explanation but when I went to type in guild chat "map / area size looks a lot like noob island", l missed the "n" and got "b", the next letter over to the left on the keyboard and the name kinda "took hold".

So, no, personally I will not be going back to "boob island". Not cause I can't hack it (being a named purple boss) but because I have no interest in gameplay of this type. I do like the fact that the PvP is confined to "boob island". Even though the temple sites are FvF areas, the players thankfully have chosen to limit their killing to the "boob island" site. If it stays this way, frankly, I can live with it.

However, where I think this will break down is with what one can do with "honor points". If honor points can be used to "get stuff" that a player who chooses not to participate can't get, then my tolerance flies out the window. Though, if it gets you stuff that only has an advantage on "boob island", the system still workls for me.

With the "boob island" providing the outlet for the PvP that many desire, I see little cause to retain FvF in the main areas of Atys. In the story line, it seems real stoopid that I can port to an oppossing faction capital and walk around undisturbed but that if I walk into PR where both factions are faced with a superior common enemy, that I can still expect to be ganked.

As for the experience, I got no xp for crafting using all the patterns that were made available to me and the honor points given crafters are less than 1/4 what an equivalent level player gets in fighting / harvesting so all I walked away with was my toon name on a board. Frankly that doesn't hiold much appeal for me.

Nevrax seems to have forgotten what they thought about the game's best features .... a look at the faturers link on the web site says:
"Supporting the dynamic invasion system, Ryzom provides battles on a scale that have never been seen in an MMOG before. ....Imagine standing outside a city, watching a hill in the distance, and seeing the first members of a wave of Kitins appear. Now imagine hundreds more following them, moving as a single, swarming army. Battles of this scale will require dozens of players working together to fend off serious invasions."


Well that's about all we can do.....imagine...unless we managed to be available during the few raid events that have occurred since retail launch.


For those of us who loved the cooperative part of the game, the most compellimng features ahve been set aside. The desire seems to be to get a slice of the warcraft pie but it seems Blizzard pays more attention to these boards then Nevrax does. It was suggested here in the forums some time back that Nevrax add special features during holiday periods to spice things up...liike spells to transform your enemies and / or your toon into a holiday related character of item.


My son logged onto WoW yesterday to find he could do just that as they can change their toons into holiday related characters like bats and snakes....they could bob for apples and go trick or treating. I wouild love to have been able to turn a kincher into a pumpkin and then "do a gallagher" on it with my "smash-o-matic" mace.


So, in conclusion, the FvF element on boob isle frankly isn't the disaster, as yet, that I saw it to be. If the conflict is limited to boob isle and doesn't spill over to the rest of Atys using "the faction" excuse to gank peeps at existing mainland FvF zones I can live with it.


During FBT I lobbied to have the white dashed lines put on the maps so we would know when we crossing into more difficult regions, it would seen that a similar indictor is warranted for FvF zones. Again, I would much prefer that FvF proponents restrict their activity to boob island, but if they can not honor the request to leave neutrals out of the conflict when they explore Atys, then at least we ought to be forwarned and be able to use the map to determine a way around the zone.

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:40 pm
by michielb
grimjim wrote:I didn't say they all had, just that a lot who were leaving are the creative ones. The heart and soul of Atys.

not gonna put all my cards on the table yet but wait for it J. Evo is not gonna take this lying down, if we go we'll go kicking an screaming....

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:52 pm
by sx4rlet
michielb wrote:not gonna put all my cards on the table yet but wait for it J. Evo is not gonna take this lying down, if we go we'll go kicking an screaming....
Mach, feel free to do it.
I dont have the energy or inspiration to do it.You know Evo is behind you in this one!

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:38 am
by xenofur
jared96 wrote:The desire seems to be to get a slice of the warcraft pie but it seems Blizzard pays more attention to these boards then Nevrax does. It was suggested here in the forums some time back that Nevrax add special features during holiday periods to spice things up...liike spells to transform your enemies and / or your toon into a holiday related character of item.

My son logged onto WoW yesterday to find he could do just that as they can change their toons into holiday related characters like bats and snakes....they could bob for apples and go trick or treating. I wouild love to have been able to turn a kincher into a pumpkin and then "do a gallagher" on it with my "smash-o-matic" mace.
They did that, candy canes for christmas and easter eggs for easter, what they didn't do and for which i'm really glad is cater to an american holiday in an international game. It's bad enough that the holiday is spilling over into other countries thanks to TV, but it really has NO playce in ryzom.

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:29 pm
by jared96
xenofur wrote:They did that, candy canes for christmas and easter eggs for easter, what they didn't do and for which i'm really glad is cater to an american holiday in an international game. It's bad enough that the holiday is spilling over into other countries thanks to TV, but it really has NO playce in ryzom.

They did that ????? You were able to change a mob into something else with a spell before you bashed it ? The toon was able to change into something ? I missed all that.

And why is it bad for people to understand and appreciate different cultures ?

Heretic had that without even a holiday reference. What doesn't have a place in Ryzom is a player base large enough to financially support the continued maintenance of an english server. Lack of a player base is the reason the two servers were merged int he 1st place.

After going to "boob island" for a day, what is there to keep a player coming back for day 2, 3....76, 77 but same ole, same ole ? It's like playing paintball in an empty swimming pool.

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:42 pm
by xenofur
jared96 wrote:that Nevrax add special features during holiday periods
i was referring to that

also, nothing against appreciating foreign holidays as long as they aren't forced on me. don't take it personal, but i have begun to hate halloween with a passion since the kids in our neighborhood began celebrating it as well.

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:06 pm
by headcach
xenofur wrote:...i have begun to hate halloween with a passion...
I must admit, you're the first Halloween Scrooge I've run across. :^)

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:41 am
by hans1976
headcach wrote:I must admit, you're the first Halloween Scrooge I've run across. :^)
*takes pictures*

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:49 am
by grimjim
headcach wrote:I must admit, you're the first Halloween Scrooge I've run across. :^)
Halloween's always been celebrated around here, the only americanised addition is trick or treat.

Re: The Episode 2 cancellation thread

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:23 am
by xenofur
grimjim wrote:Halloween's always been celebrated around here, the only americanised addition is trick or treat.
not in germany ;)

edit: my sentiments are pretty much the same as iwojimmy's, but i didn't want to express them like that