Atys Paladins declares war on Infinity!

[virii]

Pumpkin Cheesecake II

INGREDIENTS:
3/4 cup graham cracker crumbs
1/2 cup ground pecans
2 tablespoons white sugar
2 tablespoons brown sugar
1/4 cup butter
3/4 cup white sugar
3/4 cup canned pumpkin
3 egg yolks
1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon ground mace
1/2 teaspoon ground ginger
1/4 teaspoon salt
3 (8 ounce) packages cream cheese
3/8 cup white sugar
1 egg
1 egg yolk
2 tablespoons whipping cream
1 tablespoon cornstarch
1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
1/2 teaspoon lemon extract

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DIRECTIONS:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
Combine the graham cracker crumbs, ground pecans, 2 tablespoons white sugar, 2 tablespoons brown sugar, and the melted butter or margarine and mix well. Firmly press mixture into one 9 inch springform pan.
Combine 3/4 cup of the white sugar, the pumpkin, 3 egg yolks, ground cinnamon, ground mace, ground ginger and salt in a medium bowl. Mix well, and set aside.
Beat cream cheese with an electric mixer until light and fluffy; gradually add 1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons white sugar and mix well. Add the whole egg, remaining egg yolk and the whipping cream, beating well. Add cornstarch and vanilla and lemon flavorings, beat batter until smooth. Add pumpkin mixture and mix well. Pour batter into the prepared pan.
Bake at 350 degrees F (175 degrees C) for 50 to 55 minutes. Do not overbake. Center may be soft but it will firm up when chilled. Let cheesecake cool on a wire rack, then refrigerate.

[larwood]

Keoni Omega also has had problems with Audery when she went about nuking some of our harvesters then laughing about it, so i dont really see her as a outstanding player myself.

basic... were you talking to Keoni by way of Saranda's post? Or did you just call Saranda Keoni? Just curious.

[kyesmith]

So then you are joining Atys Paladins and their allies to fight the bullies, Kye? Or is this just more classic Kye rhetoric, attempting to "spin" the situation and double-talk? We know you're good at it. But those of us who know you still see through it.

Errr no, if u read the post where does it say Infinity want war!!! it dosnt, that would be AP and ON!
that shows the two guilds in their true colours! i wont stand back while you all fight infinity because this whole issue is caused by 2 players and ONE guild over reacting!

I have always had alot of respect for atys paladins, but i think this situation can be resolved without war, if u go to war then it would seem to me that you are looking for it.

ON yes its right for you to back up your allies, but i really think you are doing the wrong thing.


(sorry for any typos and not making any sence. i am drunk)

[basicart]

basic... were you talking to Keoni by way of Saranda's post? Or did you just call Saranda Keoni? Just curious.

aya i just quoted wrong box then got all confused

[uhuhu]

I think that a war would not be a solution.
I know that I have to create problems has many people (Ravens, Kye, Lockheart) and I sorry. Now, believe what you want of me, but you must know that I am really sorry.

[basicart]

So ya admit to starting it so why do Paladins want to go to war?

[kyesmith]

I think that a war would not be a solution.
I know that I have to create problems has many people (Ravens, Kye, Lockheart) and I sorry. Now, believe what you want of me, but you must know that I am really sorry.

I fully acept your apology.

[altomesa]

Errr no, if u read the post where does it say Infinity want war!!! it dosnt, that would be AP and ON!
that shows the two guilds in their true colours! i wont stand back while you all fight infinity because this whole issue is caused by 2 players and ONE guild over reacting!

While I will admit to not knowing much of Audrey, I do know Alegra and several others from AP as we have been allied with them for quite a while now and I dare say they don't have a bad bone in their bodies, so to try to make AP and Alegra out to be the culprit's is utterly rediculous, and anyone who knows them already knows this to be true.

It is Infinity that 1st started bullying ON weeks ago, it is Infinity that declared war on ON (for reasons which we are still unaware), It is Infinity that that now seems to be doing the same to AP (perhaps because ON refused to give them the fight they wanted and so now they look elsewhere). But I'm really getting sick of guilds like Infinity that treat other people badly just because they are bored. So we will join AP and others in this fight and pound Infinity to dust until their morale is so low thay they quit (once again, remember CP?). I don't care how small a community Ryzom is, I would rather it be smaller and all its homins showed each other mutual respect and treated them as they would treat a friend in RL, than to have a bunch of thugs and hooligans on an ego trip bringing nothing but grief and getting their jollies by preying on the enjoyment of others' gaming experience.

So, as far as guilds showing their "true colors," that much is correct. You've just been duped to the wrong side of the fence is all. And as the saying goes...."ignorance is bliss" but it still has consequences.

[kyesmith]

While I will admit to not knowing much of Audrey, I do know Alegra and several others from AP as we have been allied with them for quite a while now and I dare say they don't have a bad bone in their bodies, so to try to make AP and Alegra out to be the culprit's is utterly rediculous, and anyone who knows them already knows this to be true.

It is Infinity that 1st started bullying ON weeks ago, it is Infinity that declared war on ON (for reasons which we are still unaware), It is Infinity that that now seems to be doing the same to AP (perhaps because ON refused to give them the fight they wanted and so now they look elsewhere). But I'm really getting sick of guilds like Infinity that treat other people badly just because they are bored. So we will join AP and others in this fight and pound Infinity to dust until their morale is so low thay they quit (once again, remember CP?). I don't care how small a community Ryzom is, I would rather it be smaller and all its homins showed each other mutual respect and treated them as they would treat a friend in RL, than to have a bunch of thugs and hooligans on an ego trip bringing nothing but grief and getting their jollies by preying on the enjoyment of others' gaming experience.

So, as far as guilds showing their "true colors," that much is correct. You've just been duped to the wrong side of the fence is all. And as the saying goes...."ignorance is bliss" but it still has consequences.

I am not saying atys paladins are bullies, as i said i really like them and their leader!
Maybe in the past infinity have been in the wrong. but in the case they have not been, and calling on all guilds to turn on them is wrong!

As for being bullies i think my talk with keoni demanding 500mats or starting a war on a guild with 6 members due to one person being involved, not attack but nor rezzing ON in PR! WHO ARE THE BULLIES"!!!!!

Thats all i am saying, this post is now only between alegra, brithlem and audrey, i can only hope the right choice is made......

[keoni]

As for being bullies i think my talk with keoni demanding 500mats or starting a war on a guild with 6 members due to one person being involved, not attack but nor rezzing ON in PR! WHO ARE THE BULLIES"!!!!!

Okay, let's set the record straight here. Fasinus, a member of your KoO guild, was teamed with and supporting Padawan as he ran around PR ganking harvesters he considered to be Kami-aligned, including Saranda. After the griefing, both Padawan and Fasinus talked smack in around chat to Saranda as she lay there. We found this to be a particularly curious action, because you had been talking to us about an alliance in the days before that unprovoked attack, and we had been engaged in mutually-beneficial trade.

As is our general guild policy, once any member of a guild kills one of ours without provocation, we consider all members of that guild to be valid targets for similar actions (on a kill-for-a-kill basis), and we no longer trade with or otherwise assist them. However, if the guild takes responsibility for their guild member‘s actions by either disciplining them in some meaningful way, or providing us some compensation for the aggravation caused, then we are content to let bygones be bygones. In this case, since you were unwilling to take any action against your guild mate, I offered you the option of a bagful of grind mats as reasonable compensation. An offer to avert a conflict which *your guild* initiated (in concert with Padawan), is generally considered to be a “peace overture,” rather than a “demand.”

You refused that offer, but went on to have a conversation with Saranda in which both of you claimed to come to an amicable understanding. That was soon a moot point, because apparently you then (for reasons unknown) went running off to Infinity to help defend you against us. Infinity obliged you, and started squealing about how they had to go with war with ON because of the prices I charged for jewelry (I know, it sounds absurd to me too, but it was one of the principle reason they were giving).

The net result of all that aggression - so far, Infinity has lost some of its better recent recruits, who had taken Brthlem at his word when he claimed to be reinventing Infinity as a less aggressive entity. As for KoO, it appears to me you drove off one of the nicest, most skilled players in Ryzom - Themac. I don’t know for sure why he has disappeared, but he told me shortly before he stopped logging in that he would not be put in a position of having to chose between friends. You, Kye, pursued the confrontation with ON- and now Themac is apparently gone. If he doesn’t return, that’s a very sad loss for all of us