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lyrah68 wrote:What you fail to understand is that foragers will be PRIME targets, by the time you can stop and stand up you are already dead. If they add looting to that...game ruined, nuf said.

What the VAST majority of ANTI PVPers are worried about is griefers camping us while we are trying to peacably forage. We don't ALL group with hunters for kicks ya know.

I'd agree with you more if they forced harvesters to enter pvp zones to get mats. They haven't. PVP zones are clearly marked, and not all that easy to get to. If you enter a pvp combat area unprotected, you should realize you are asking to be attacked.

Your participation in PVP is voluntary.

zyran wrote:I'd agree with you more if they forced harvesters to enter pvp zones to get mats. They haven't. PVP zones are clearly marked, and not all that easy to get to. If you enter a pvp combat area unprotected, you should realize you are asking to be attacked.

Your participation in PVP is voluntary.

For the moment I do agree, there are very few harvesters that can actually pull out these new uber mats in the new PvP zones. In time that will change. That may be several months down the road, but that day will come. Harvesters just want to harvest, no matter what is going on in that zone. If there are too many argo PvE mobs in an area, you can't harvest. Harvesting is a different non combat type experience.

"Originally posted by: kisedd
Time will tell. Some of these zones must be passed through to move to other lands or areas. I dont' think its a good idea. I agree it brings out all the worst in people. It's done with, and for now the only thing we can do is leave. My account ends at the end of January, so I have time to see how this all plays out.
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Currently I am a rather low level player, but I did have hopes of visiting other lands and eventually harvesting high level mats. Placing PvP in areas that prevent peacefull game progression is a very bad idea that should be fixed by removing those obstacles. As recent patches show, nothing is permanent, so the elimination of PvP or allowing people to opt out of it should be as easy to accomplish as it was to add it to the game. My subscription ends in about mid January, if this problem isn't fixed by then I will leave.

Note to the Devs:
I have an account that dates back to last February, although I wasn't able to play very much until this September. How many other long time fans will you alienate by changing the game from a predominately peaceful environment into a free-for-all melee game?

teana wrote:Currently I am a rather low level player, but I did have hopes of visiting other lands and eventually harvesting high level mats.

I think perhaps you have a misunderstanding. There are q250 mats in every terrain type, including PR. Not one of those zones is PVP. The Umbra area of PR is generally travelled as people are working their way to other parts of the world. Most people do not solo these trips - PVP doesn't impact them all that much. You can play the game without interacting with PVP if you so chose to do so.

The way they have implemented PVP is one of the most reasonable middle-ground decisions Nevrax has made to date.

I sincerely hope that there will ne no loot, no experience and no other tangible benefit from killing other players in PvP.

Remove those incentives to gank and what you are left with is race wars, guild wars and faction wars - what I believe has been an intended subplot of the Saga all along.

Oh, yeah - there will be a few pitiful jerks who just have to kill because they can. I expect they are mostly already in the WoW universe or collecting l33t l3wt in EQ2.

bizango wrote:I sincerely hope that there will ne no loot, no experience and no other tangible benefit from killing other players in PvP.

Remove those incentives to gank and what you are left with is race wars, guild wars and faction wars - what I believe has been an intended subplot of the Saga all along.

Oh, yeah - there will be a few pitiful jerks who just have to kill because they can. I expect they are mostly already in the WoW universe or collecting l33t l3wt in EQ2.

I would love loot to a certain degree (maybe only 10% of dappers), or droppable mats... Good reason to kill harvesters, but also a good reason to have PvP in those areas. You will need to have fellow farmers there to protect you from tyrants and the village looters...

To be honest if you was able to loot me over a PK i would just pop invul insted and
run screaming into a bunch of kinchers.

-Basic
-OmegaV