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aelvana wrote:Don't forget my answer was because it makes multiracial crafting and grinding much much easier

Maybe the idea is that one is suppose to become an expert in one type of crafting before taking on all types of crafting?

raynes wrote:So the answer that everyone has is becuase they want to. Well lots of people want to do lots of things, but that does not mean they should.

A game should be fun before anything else. People should get what they want, just so long as they know the repercussions in the long-term.

I want challenge and a lot of unrealistic difficulty because every other game is too easy.

While creating a UO server once, I asked my friend who kept wanting things “So, do you just want a free castle and unlimited gold?” and he replied “of course not – I just want to have fun. I want to earn a castle and all the gold in the world.”

raynes wrote:Maybe the idea is that one is suppose to become an expert in one type of crafting before taking on all types of crafting?

My understanding is that there is no reasonable way to get from PR 50 to PR 90 harvesting, regardless of what level you are in the other branches. That has nothing to do with all the rest of this stuff, raynes. That sounds like a bug or confusion. Perhaps they mean to change where PR diverges from the other harvesting tracks to level 100 or greater?

Doctor Z.

Please read:

http://ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87103&postcount=38

raynes wrote:So the answer that everyone has is becuase they want to. Well lots of people want to do lots of things, but that does not mean they should.

raynes, you are a closed minded and a flamer. i suppose thats a personal attack but i am doing my best to remain civil with you. i will no longer spend time trying to converse with someone unwilling to take the time and consideration to listen to others views as well. all you do is hi-jack threads and make it us against you.
you even created a thread when one was allready going about this exact issue. if you think simply by arguing every issue it makes you seem intelligent your wrong. i am fine with people looking for attention but you go about it in a malicious manner and i will no longer participate.

thanks again for the quick reply to the current issue cerest.

Because that little bar that says Prime Roots Foraging 51/100 needs to go up as well. I don't here you saying "Why do people need both 1h and 2h sword?" If something is available to me then i should be able to level it. Group foraging is just pathetic in terms of xp and mats pulled unless you don't have the skills to solo.

raynes wrote:So the answer that everyone has is becuase they want to. Well lots of people want to do lots of things, but that does not mean they should.

The fact remains, that in order to level PR forage, you have to, y'know, forage the PR. There are no magical shortcuts that bump your skills up to L250 magically in all branches if you level them in one.

It doesn't matter that you 'should' only be able to use them at L250 (which is not true since Windy is L150 and yes, you can be perfectly safe there at L150 aside from Kitin patrols). I wouldn't even get XP for most of the creatures in Windy at my level, so I fail to see how I should have to wait another 100 levels before daring to peek my head in there.

Anyway, it doesn't matter where you 'should' be able to use them because in order to get to L250 in PR forage, you first have to level L51-L249 PR forage. And that can only ever be done in the Roots. You cannot level PR forage in Thessos, nor can you level it in HoiCho. You cannot level PR forage in Fleeting Gardens and not even in Dew Drops. The only place to level PR forage is (wait for it) the Prime Roots.

I heard a rumour once that every land contained within it a portion of the land that would give forage XP for other areas. For example, harvesting the outback in Witherings gives you desert forage XP. That may be the case for the rest, but I have never found an aboveground source of PR forage.

This means that no matter who you are, you have to level in the PR no matter what you are in any other branch in any other skill tree. Many people have been levelling PR forage along with other skills to keep them in balance. Many of the major DP issues at release came about when people had unbalanced skills.

Levelling in something to produce results you can use. How radical!

Most people I know who are playing the game for fun have a rather 'what do you feel like' attitude to things. So we organise a hunting party for high level skills, or maybe one for low level skills, or maybe today we'll go to Fyros and level desert forage. Maybe, following your lead, we should concentrate on one skill to the exclusion of all others and powerlevel our way through the game. That may be fine for you. It's not my idea of fun though. I like the variety. I like challenge as well, but the fact is, the roots are there and they are there to be explored and exploited. The only way to get to high level PR forage is to forage the PR. Catch 22 if you think that no-one should go to the PR and forage until they have PR forage 250.

Tin.

overide1 wrote:raynes, you are a closed minded and a flamer. i suppose thats a personal attack but i am doing my best to remain civil with you. i will no longer spend time trying to converse with someone unwilling to take the time and consideration to listen to others views as well. all you do is hi-jack threads and make it us against you.
you even created a thread when one was allready going about this exact issue. if you think simply by arguing every issue it makes you seem intelligent your wrong. i am fine with people looking for attention but you go about it in a malicious manner and i will no longer participate.

thanks again for the quick reply to the current issue cerest.

Hehe, I saw a great signature once.... had this pic with a cruel yet meaningful sentence. "Arguing on the Internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded."

raynes wrote:Maybe the idea is that one is suppose to become an expert in one type of crafting before taking on all types of crafting?

If that were the case raynes the plans should not be available.... But they are as well as crafting starts at any level.

wayas wrote:Originally Posted by wayas
cuz they are better?

raynes wrote:So just because you want the best mats in the game, you should get them??? And what exactly is going to be the reward for getting to really high to max level in harvesting? You have access to the best mats well before that, what is the benefit?

where in the text i wrote did you find all that stuff? your making things up here, take a while and think and read what i actually write...

i got prime root foragin lvl 51 since i havent been harvesting in the pr, but when i do harvest i actually want to be able to. as it is now i CANT even harvest how much i try in the pr, even if i did jungle forage lvl 250 i still couldent harvest in the pr.

why is that? because there are only lvl 100+ sources in the pr and you got to have atleast q100 extraction stanzas to forage a q100 source...

see the problem? where do i get the lvls between 50-90?

back to the actual topic:

cuz supreme mats are better, and i like white armor.