Ryzom

It is nice to see that they are testing the patch before release. Wonderful news cerest.

"However, we were informed that there would be no patch today. Does this mean it is off? I need to know this as soon as possible so I can decide if I wish to continue logging in to continual frustration and tears or simply go away and find something to do with my time that is acutally fun."

Unfortunately, Tanna you do not realize you are dealing with a company that apparently has not heard of ISO (International Organization for Standards) SPC (Statistical Process Control) and does not adhere to trade association standards. They have no concept of "just in time" business practices and treat deadlines merely as a suggestion. Sloppy companies that produce sloppy products usually do not last very long, at least in North America. Note that Microsoft appears to be the exception. If you are not committed to do what you say you are going to do you generally lose customers, go bankrupt and cease to exist. I fear we are dealing with such a company in Nevrax and unless they change their operating methods I fear we may lose the game we love.

Good lord people expecting per week patches.... wow.

"it will be done when it is Done"

Bungie on Halo2

navra wrote:"However, we were informed that there would be no patch today. Does this mean it is off? I need to know this as soon as possible so I can decide if I wish to continue logging in to continual frustration and tears or simply go away and find something to do with my time that is acutally fun."

Unfortunately, Tanna you do not realize you are dealing with a company that apparently has not heard of ISO (International Organization for Standards) SPC (Statistical Process Control) and does not adhere to trade association standards. They have no concept of "just in time" business practices and treat deadlines merely as a suggestion. Sloppy companies that produce sloppy products usually do not last very long, at least in North America. Note that Microsoft appears to be the exception. If you are not committed to do what you say you are going to do you generally lose customers, go bankrupt and cease to exist. I fear we are dealing with such a company in Nevrax and unless they change their operating methods I fear we may lose the game we love.

navra, I have to respectfully disagree with you. I honestly don't care if the patch comes today, tomorrow or next week. All I care about is that they fully test it (which it appears they are) and that it doesn't bring any problems to the table once it has been released.

I would rather it take longer for them to release something, than for it to be buggy, slow the servers, make the game crash, or bring exploits to the game.

navra wrote: Unfortunately, Tanna you do not realize you are dealing with a company that apparently has not heard of ISO (International Organization for Standards) SPC (Statistical Process Control) and does not adhere to trade association standards. They have no concept of "just in time" business practices and treat deadlines merely as a suggestion. Sloppy companies that produce sloppy products usually do not last very long, at least in North America. Note that Microsoft appears to be the exception. If you are not committed to do what you say you are going to do you generally lose customers, go bankrupt and cease to exist.

You've pretty much described the entire software industry.

navra wrote:"However, we were informed that there would be no patch today. Does this mean it is off? I need to know this as soon as possible so I can decide if I wish to continue logging in to continual frustration and tears or simply go away and find something to do with my time that is acutally fun."

Unfortunately, Tanna you do not realize you are dealing with a company that apparently has not heard of ISO (International Organization for Standards) SPC (Statistical Process Control) and does not adhere to trade association standards. They have no concept of "just in time" business practices and treat deadlines merely as a suggestion. Sloppy companies that produce sloppy products usually do not last very long, at least in North America. Note that Microsoft appears to be the exception. If you are not committed to do what you say you are going to do you generally lose customers, go bankrupt and cease to exist. I fear we are dealing with such a company in Nevrax and unless they change their operating methods I fear we may lose the game we love.

i'm going to disagree with you

for one could you show me ANY ISO standard on programming, ISO only deals with manufacturing and supply. nevrax and other software companies are NOT covered under these. i mean i gues there's the the ISO model for network connections but that's only a suggested model and NEVER used in practice.

as for SPC, umm yet again that's manufacturing NOT programming.

i've been certified in both of them.

but if you do want to push the point i'm guessing they would be under ISO-9002, which means they have to:

have documented error reporting, yes they have a ticket system
well documented changes, yup got that in several spots
paper work that's standardized, ok internal stuff

so yeah i guess they are reasonably compliant with ISO

as for SPC, well they do have the beta test servers to TEST stuff, which if you know anything about SPC there is room for error it's just trying to control how many errors you have.

i will say you are spreading what is called FUD as well as being a prime example of a little bit of knowledge is a very dangerous thing.

nevrax is at least testing the patch for errors, which well would fall under all the you claim they aren't.

as for software in general beta is a very relative term. there's no point when you can say "this is no longer beta" it's when you decide it isn't

cerest wrote:I found out this morning that today's patch has indeed been postponed to tomorrow due to testing. Sorry for any inconvenience.

ok no prob thanks to WoW waiting now is not an issue for me anymore.. at least until my first month ends.

Mekos wrote:It is nice to see that they are testing the patch before release. Wonderful news cerest.

Ditto on that. Had more testing been listened to with Patch 1 the the general mood of the forums wouldn't be where it is. All this work just to get back to where things started.

navra wrote:"However, we were informed that there would be no patch today. Does this mean it is off? I need to know this as soon as possible so I can decide if I wish to continue logging in to continual frustration and tears or simply go away and find something to do with my time that is acutally fun."

Unfortunately, Tanna you do not realize you are dealing with a company that apparently has not heard of ISO (International Organization for Standards) SPC (Statistical Process Control) and does not adhere to trade association standards. They have no concept of "just in time" business practices and treat deadlines merely as a suggestion. Sloppy companies that produce sloppy products usually do not last very long, at least in North America. Note that Microsoft appears to be the exception. If you are not committed to do what you say you are going to do you generally lose customers, go bankrupt and cease to exist. I fear we are dealing with such a company in Nevrax and unless they change their operating methods I fear we may lose the game we love.

Well I guess Valve is going down since they were over a year behind releasing Half-Life 2. Luckily I got a released copy before they folded under.