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Re: Avoid source killing?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:42 am
by varna
I was contemplating taking ground stability and resource preservation to use while other people are extracting. I think i'll definitely save some points now to buy these skills.
Re: Avoid source killing?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:49 am
by tyreal74
ozric wrote:You can get 2x mats from lvl 20. If you are extracting q50 mats you must be lvl 30+ then ? Perhaps you should review the actions you use and the others that are available ?
I never got the rate upgrades hence only still getting 1 per source, im going to redo my actions when we get patch 1 adn yes im over lvl 30 by 1 lvl 31
Re: Avoid source killing?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:02 pm
by ahremark
Resource Preservation can also be used to get around that bug that makes you unable to get Q50 mats from sources with a higher optimal Q than 50 if you only have 'extraction 50' (You usually only get to Q49.7).
If you Start off with one round of extaction followed by one round of preservation (Timing is important, if you do more than a single round you'll end up at 49.7 again.) and then go back to extracting normally, you will get to Q50 like you should.
Found this out by accident when doing my usual routine one day.
So there you have another reason to get preservation
Re: Avoid source killing?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:07 pm
by a02chrha
ozric wrote:
Perhaps you too should review your actions ?
Rather than lowering efficiency, you could raise it quite easily. If any mat is useful to you, why prospect 4 sources on long timers, with a relatively high focus cost for doing so ? Just because you have many actions available doesnt mean to say that you have to use them all every time. I have numerous "hands" bars with different harvesting actions, and i choose the actions i use depending on the circumstances, the results that i want and yes, also taking efficiency into consideration. Depleting a source or an area is never really a good idea if it can be avoided.
Currently, you can only get the mats (and the xp) at the end of the extraction period of the source that you are working on.
Good point, I actually had that thought slowly growing in my uncounciousness. Lower time and move quick between instead of maxing out. Will try some upcoming evening.
The reason for multiple sources is that if I know that an area holds, say choice bark. and has neighbours of other basic mats. Id rather get the choice bark. Any mat goes, but at the same time I take the most important of the ones available. Many sources also helps pointing out a mat area limit.
Another reason for me doing it is that im lazy lol. I want a "universal" prospect and harvest skill in the bar rather than a full bar making me dizzy. Maybe I need to drop that..
Re: Avoid source killing?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:07 pm
by borguk
a02chrha wrote:Good point, I actually had that thought slowly growing in my uncounciousness. Lower time and move quick between instead of maxing out. Will try some upcoming evening.
The reason for multiple sources is that if I know that an area holds, say choice bark. and has neighbours of other basic mats. Id rather get the choice bark. Any mat goes, but at the same time I take the most important of the ones available. Many sources also helps pointing out a mat area limit.
Another reason for me doing it is that im lazy lol. I want a "universal" prospect and harvest skill in the bar rather than a full bar making me dizzy. Maybe I need to drop that..
I now have 2 full strips of bars for foraging
(2 and 3)
Re: Avoid source killing?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:36 pm
by 0waxman0
borg9 wrote:Using Aggresive 334 and 45" source time.
I have notices that the source content - can be effected by use of Terrain Spec.... however I still find that after extracting 30ish +/-5 the source always goes to exhausted.
Is this avoidable?
after much testing using the Terrain specalisation there is no differance to the quantity of materials available in an area. Yes the source contnet bar goes up allmost double. but the location will stil dry up after 30 ish mats any way.
Unless the Cource content is the maximum number of mats available from that 1 instance ie. that source. However that makes the stanza absolutly use less the highest single extract i have seen was 12 mats, i dont think any one lower than lvl 250 will get any more than that. 12 mats is still less than half of the source content on a basic source.
Taln
Evolution Guild member
Tryker Harvest monkey.
Re: Avoid source killing?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:57 pm
by borg9
0waxman0 wrote:after much testing using the Terrain specalisation there is no differance to the quantity of materials available in an area. Yes the source contnet bar goes up allmost double. but the location will stil dry up after 30 ish mats any way.
Unless the Cource content is the maximum number of mats available from that 1 instance ie. that source. However that makes the stanza absolutly use less the highest single extract i have seen was 12 mats, i dont think any one lower than lvl 250 will get any more than that. 12 mats is still less than half of the source content on a basic source.
Taln
Evolution Guild member
Tryker Harvest monkey.
So basically 30 mats on a single spot = strip mining
If you exhasted it before that, you where not harvesting carefully enough.
If you get more than 30 woot!
However, it just not possible to avoid exhausting a spot.
I have also found it tend to empty the spot that are very close to the one you are harvesting. but this just might be my imagination.