/philosophical rant mode on
dakhound wrote:you know, of all the things people have said as to why they don`t/wont play this game never before has "the community" or "loads of high levels about" been mentioned.
That i find myself agreeing with jackoo, is a sign for me that we really have interesting times

, but, in all his quirky ways, he can put quit some truth into a few words(if he just wants to).
That sayed, for me too it was the example of the "older" players that lead me to try to reach or even excel them. mind you, i still havn´t reached one of them and don´t have even 1 master under my belt, but i had and still have a great time aspiring to my "Heros"
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dakhound wrote: a wipe isnt new content.
and again, so few words, so much truth in them, but what truth does they tell.
mostly, as an "old" player it´s boredom that haunts you, you´ve seen it all and you did it all, you´ve mastered 1 or 2 skills (or 4, or 5, or even 11 O_o) and have the feeling that there isn´t much you still can do with your toon...
but what you seek are the wonders of newness and that won´t come back with a serverwipe, only with a mindwipe, because even IF you start a new toon/get a wipe, you still know what you did all the time befor.
so essentialy the boredom would stay, you can´t really do or expirience something new, lest the devs remake EVERYTHING, story, world and lore(and that would mean that it isn´t atys anymore), only your new self can´t do everything you once could do.
try it, make yourself a new char(if u have a free slot), the grinding will at first distract you from boredom, but sooner then later you´ll be bored again, cause you´ve seen it all allready... so what can you do?
the easy thing, find something else, cause then you can feel newness again(like droping a girlfriend, because she isn´t new anymore), but that won´t change a thing, cause at some point, the "new" will turn "old" too.
the hard thing, try to grind those skills that aren´t in the skilltree, those that don´t give you ding´s, like being an icon of virtue or a despicable miscreant, that everyone loves or hates, but all aspire to be like, a figure larger then live itself, an example.
or the hardest, but(at least for me) the most rewarding thing...
being a teacher
cause the ding´s you get aren´t yours but theres and the best part(again at least for me) even if they surpass you after a time, you can say, i´m better still..
cause i had it harder, i had to walk through 30ft of snow, barfooted, uphill.... in BOTH directions

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don´t forget content isn´t what the devs come up with, these are just tools,
content is what we do with it, it´s in the mind of the people.
/philosophical rant mode off
PS:sorry for the long post, but its a topic that really moves me.
*PPS:that means you too Final, equaly Jack, Kaetemi and... hell most everyone in this thread so far and, if they read this, Ghuiss, Bijam, Wintermute, Ami, Zok, the whole of the PM, AP and MoM bunch, and many more homins from Atys*sight*... and now i better stop befor i get sentimental
